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Re: Show HN: I made CSS Pro, a re-imagined Devtools for web design

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Honestly the comments are a good example on how difficult it is to sell to developers and why startup ideas that target developers are dangerous to bootstrap. Developers have high incomes, but are quite frankly, extremely cheap. And I actually mean cheap and not frugal. They will spend 40 hours/week for months to save $5/mo. There's basically no logic apart from that developers have a poor concept of time and money a…

After subscribing to absolutely everything and wondering where your paycheck is going every pay period, you sort of learn to just stop subscribing to anything at all. It's not cheap, you just learn the hard way you'll just make your paycheck evaporate otherwise.

Re: Show HN: I made CSS Pro, a re-imagined Devtools for web design

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post #69

Honestly the comments are a good example on how difficult it is to sell to developers and why startup ideas that target developers are dangerous to bootstrap. Developers have high incomes, but are quite frankly, extremely cheap. And I actually mean cheap and not frugal. They will spend 40 hours/week for months to save $5/mo. There's basically no logic apart from that developers have a poor concept of time and money a…

you sound like someone with an sf salary.

Re: Show HN: I made CSS Pro, a re-imagined Devtools for web design

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If you use Tailwind and React, you might like Impulse[1] (disclaimer: I made it and use it almost daily) Not only does it provide means for visual editing (for Tailwind only), but it also saves all changes to your code. Free and open source. [1] https://impulse.dev/

this looks great does it works on incognito mode?

Re: Show HN: I made CSS Pro, a re-imagined Devtools for web design

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> In this case, this tool is $30/mo, or about $360 / year, what is that, 3 dinners for 2 people in a year? The tool may save the developer, let's say 3-4 hours / week and at 52 * 3 or about 156 hours of savings a year. I think you're being unnecessarily harsh. I can afford lots of things; I don't run out and buy them though. So this tool might save you maybe 4 hours a week (I cannot really see it saving 4 hours a wee…

If you're using a paid service for work, the company should pay for it.

> If you're using a paid service for work, the company should pay for it.

I said that.

Re: Show HN: I made CSS Pro, a re-imagined Devtools for web design

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This is mostly for the visual types. Designers tend to have an inner picture they want to see/create, so they know what to create.

I recall reading about a very successful animator who needed to sketch out every frame because he had severe aphantasia and thus had general ideas about what he wanted things to look like but couldn't envision the actual result without a visual aid.

Having an "inner picture" is helpful but neither necessary nor sufficient to be a designer. You can have a good intuition even when you're physically incapable of having "inner pictures". But yes, the tool is probably less useful if you have a vivid imagination.

Re: Show HN: I made CSS Pro, a re-imagined Devtools for web design

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This could also be a bookmarklet. That would make it more secure as bookmarklets only have access to the page you use them on. Looking at the code, you can indeed run it as a bookmarklet. I went to https://www.example.com and typed this in the browser console: s1=document.createElement('script'); s1.src='https://code.jquery.com/jquery-3.7.0.slim.min.js'; document.head.appendChild(s1); s2=document.createElement('scrip…

Any site that has a half decent Content Security Policy would prevent this. (You can try on HN, GitHub, etc and it fails) However it may work as a UserScript depending on the UserScript engine.

Sure but the main proposition for this tool is for it to be used during local development where CSP is often/always omitted.

Re: Show HN: I made CSS Pro, a re-imagined Devtools for web design

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post #69

Honestly the comments are a good example on how difficult it is to sell to developers and why startup ideas that target developers are dangerous to bootstrap. Developers have high incomes, but are quite frankly, extremely cheap. And I actually mean cheap and not frugal. They will spend 40 hours/week for months to save $5/mo. There's basically no logic apart from that developers have a poor concept of time and money a…

Not all of us, thankfully.

I have a job to do and can't afford to create the computing world from scratch just to be cheappy.

Likewise I want the folks that provide the tools I enjoy using, to also afford the same lifestyle I can enjoy having.

Re: Show HN: I made CSS Pro, a re-imagined Devtools for web design

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post #69

Honestly the comments are a good example on how difficult it is to sell to developers and why startup ideas that target developers are dangerous to bootstrap. Developers have high incomes, but are quite frankly, extremely cheap. And I actually mean cheap and not frugal. They will spend 40 hours/week for months to save $5/mo. There's basically no logic apart from that developers have a poor concept of time and money a…

No. Monthly subscriptions suck. Every company wants to "tax" me monthly for something that's feature complete. The ones I already pay, I do so very begrudgingly. There's simply too many SaaS products out there. Let's go back to perpetual licenses. And I'll gladly pay for upgraded versions, or not if the upgrade isn't worthwhile. When it's not SaaS, I also get to control what version I'm using. The product doesn't own…

Yeah, now do the math how much it costs to keep a company in business, and how much it must land in the bank every single month to pay everyone's salaries and infrastructure.

Re: Show HN: I made CSS Pro, a re-imagined Devtools for web design

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If you use Tailwind and React, you might like Impulse[1] (disclaimer: I made it and use it almost daily) Not only does it provide means for visual editing (for Tailwind only), but it also saves all changes to your code. Free and open source. [1] https://impulse.dev/

this looks great does it works on incognito mode?

Yes.

It'd have to ask you for the FS permissions again though since the active FS handle is stored in the IndexDB which of course is separate in incognito.

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