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Re: Brave Browser introduces vertical tabs

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Post by echelon »

qudat wrote: post #94
ojkelly wrote: post #83

The more I think about this, the more convinced I am that I want a browser that functions like an IDE. Multiple panes with tabs, that can be resized either to custom sizes or automatically (binary space partitioning). It’s too much for a general purpose browser, which is how we’ve got the Chrome, Safari, Firefox we have. But I think the appeal of a more information-dense browser is broader than we think, anyone doing…

That’s why people like single tab browsers. Then you leverage a tiling manager like i3 or sway to manage the windows

This! Everything in the OS should follow that workflow. Even better if every text entry can be made modal like vim.

Re: Brave Browser introduces vertical tabs

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Post by prng2021 »

bradgessler wrote: post #92

The more enhancements I see browser vendors making to tabs, the more I think they’re reinventing bookmarks/favorites. Safari introduced “tab groups” a while back, which to me is an insane mess of complexity. When I think about it though they’re just folders and each tab is a bookmark/favorite. The vertical tabs in Brave remind me of bookmarks/favorites too.

I don’t follow. Tabs are nothing like favorites. You go to a favorite and open links within it in new tabs. Eventually the tabs will be closed and you’ll often never visit those links ever again, as opposed to a favorite.

As for tab groups, I could never get used to them, but I do use vertical tabs and find them quite useful.

Re: Brave Browser introduces vertical tabs

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Post by kusuriya »

Im conflicted, I like the general idea behind brave, their vertical tabs look good, but the browser deeply integrates this crypto grift and robs sites I visit and have their ads allowed of their revenue then wants them to "opt-in" to their grift to get the money they stole.

Re: Brave Browser introduces vertical tabs

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Post by chaxor »

OutsmartDan wrote: post #40
james_pm wrote: post #18

Everyone is copying Arc. Microsoft showed a similar design to what Arc has along with vertical tabs.

The crucial difference is keeping the address bar- this is where I think Arc is falling short. Maybe it's me, but I have an extremely difficult time reprogramming my expectations of where the address bar should be.

Hide all of it - all things not the page itself. The only time the address bar, settings accessibility, etc should be visible is upon Ctrl+L

Re: Brave Browser introduces vertical tabs

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Post by eviks »

alpaca128 wrote: post #43
tivert wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's strange to me how a key selling point of these vertical tabs is "save on vertical space", but they almost always still include a header bar. Honestly, that's not the main selling point of vertical tabs for me. Horizontal tabs don't scale for more than a dozen or so, but vertical tabs do. The "wasted" horizontal space is useless for reading most page, but displays enough data for practical navigation, and the v…

> the vertical organization allows more-developed vertical scrolling technologies to be used with the tab list (e.g. scroll wheels). Firefox also lets you scroll the tabs horizontally. Which I prefer to Brave's approach of simply not displaying the last tabs in the bar if it's too many, which means newly opened tabs simply never show up while the others are shrunk so far they become difficult to hit with the cursor.

But it's easier to scroll vertically, also because the scroll area is bigger

Re: Brave Browser introduces vertical tabs

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Post by behnamoh »

ojkelly wrote: post #83

The more I think about this, the more convinced I am that I want a browser that functions like an IDE. Multiple panes with tabs, that can be resized either to custom sizes or automatically (binary space partitioning). It’s too much for a general purpose browser, which is how we’ve got the Chrome, Safari, Firefox we have. But I think the appeal of a more information-dense browser is broader than we think, anyone doing…

And not an IDE like VSCode, but a fully customizable IDE.

It's so frustrating to yearn for basic features in VSCode only to be ignored for years. For example, on macOS, a good amount of space is wasted because we can't hide the menu/title bar. We can't customize tabs either. No vertical tabs like Edge. No tabs height customization. It's either their way or the highway.

A gripe with Brave: Why doesn't the mouse-over feature for the vertical tabs doesn't work if the cursor is at the very left of the screen? And why can't we move the vertical bar to the right side of screen?

Re: Brave Browser introduces vertical tabs

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Post by chaxor »

biggestfan wrote: post #2

It's strange to me how a key selling point of these vertical tabs is "save on vertical space", but they almost always still include a header bar. You can see in the video they posted that it saves almost no vertical space, while now taking up a massive amount of horizontal space.

The trick is to hide all extra stuff like address bar, tabs, settings, OS related bars, etc. and alonly show the browser stuff upon Ctrl+L. It's so much nicer, especially with an wm that's just gets out of the way - awesomewm

Re: Brave Browser introduces vertical tabs

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Post by behnamoh »

RileyJames wrote: post #91
ojkelly wrote: post #83

The more I think about this, the more convinced I am that I want a browser that functions like an IDE. Multiple panes with tabs, that can be resized either to custom sizes or automatically (binary space partitioning). It’s too much for a general purpose browser, which is how we’ve got the Chrome, Safari, Firefox we have. But I think the appeal of a more information-dense browser is broader than we think, anyone doing…

I’d be keen to try something like that out. I’ve been using pop os for the past few months and I’ve fallen in love with its snapping window manager. I have a 4K screen plus the laptop (xps 13). I can have two browsers open, then my ide. And then terminal on the laptop screen. And I can easily slide the divider between the ide and browsers as necessary based on what requires the most space at the time. Only issues I’v…

If only PopOS had a better name. I like their wm but the naming sucks tbh.

Re: Brave Browser introduces vertical tabs

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Post by viktree »

bradgessler wrote: post #92

The more enhancements I see browser vendors making to tabs, the more I think they’re reinventing bookmarks/favorites. Safari introduced “tab groups” a while back, which to me is an insane mess of complexity. When I think about it though they’re just folders and each tab is a bookmark/favorite. The vertical tabs in Brave remind me of bookmarks/favorites too.

This is one feature I like in the Arc Browser. Persistent tabs are bookmarks, and bookmarks are just as accessible as regular tabs.
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