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Social media can be a ‘profound risk’ to youth, surgeon general warns

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Re: Social media can be a ‘profound risk’ to youth, surgeon general warns

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Reporting about it in media causes more of them actually so yea. They should stop reporting on them. Our states are as big as countries so they really should be considered separately. Just because Texas had one doesn't mean a child in California is suddenly in more danger. But actually reporting on it in news media does increase the likelihood because it puts the idea into a shooter's head. To put it another way the…

Reporting about it in media causes more of them actually so yea. There isn't good evidence to support this claim, though it's popular with people who have never thought about such issues before.

https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal...

Re: Social media can be a ‘profound risk’ to youth, surgeon general warns

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What’s the actual K-12 chance though? If you’re saying that the cumulative 0.7% chance is incorrect, can you provide a more accurate figure?

# K-12 kids killed (specifically in this case shot dead) at school in the U.S. in a given year / # K-12 kids total who go to school This: https://www.census.gov/data/tables/2020/demo/school-enrollme... Makes it look like there are 55,548,000 K-12 kids enrolled in school in the U.S. in 2020 This: https://nces.ed.gov/programs/coe/indicator/a01 Makes it look like there are between 12 and 35 homicides of kids 5-18 years…

Thank you! I wonder how the other source calculated their answer

Re: Social media can be a ‘profound risk’ to youth, surgeon general warns

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I didn't say they were my friends, I said the opposite, people I just met

That's a good indicator that they're people to avoid.

Cool, that's what I'll tell my kids when they're socially ostracized by most of their school.

Re: Social media can be a ‘profound risk’ to youth, surgeon general warns

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They said the same about early cellphones. They said the same about walkmans. They said the same about rap music. They said the same about TV. They said the same about comic books. They said the same about rock and roll. Go back far enough and they said the same about the printing press. Ok boomer. Can we please first address the real issues?

What are "the real issues"?

Re: Social media can be a ‘profound risk’ to youth, surgeon general warns

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True, but think about how lucrative it can be for a VC. We as a society obviously back VCs over the youth and the future of humanity.

You're downvoted because you made the intrepid entrepreneurs here squirm with guilt.

Re: Social media can be a ‘profound risk’ to youth, surgeon general warns

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My Parents gave me no privacy when I was a teenager. Guess what I learned? I learned that it was easier to lie and hide who I was than to be honest. I got better at lying and deceiving because it was a necessity. It was easy to get around their rules eventually; after all, I was a child with unlimited time and desperation to live my way. None of the children in my family talk to my parents anymore and most left home…

No one is advocating the extremes you mention. No on-device privacy is different than no privacy.

I'm not speaking in extremes and my story is more common than you think.

Re: Social media can be a ‘profound risk’ to youth, surgeon general warns

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That's a great argument for policymaking, but that's not what we're talking about -- we're talking about whether the children themselves should be worried sick, literally, about it. They clearly should not. Obesity and car wrecks will kill far more of them, and dealing with those issues is far more preventable. Smash the soda vending machines in their lunchrooms, and you'll save far more lives, plus avoid traumatizin…

Once again, there is a significant qualitative difference between accidental or medically-related deaths, and someone actively attempting to end your life. Failing to acknowledge this is a significantly larger cognitive blind spot than the frequentist posters above are complaining about. It's not like there is a complete lack of advocacy about auto safety or school diets. You might remember that during the Obama admi…

It's something that something should be done about, but not something that should be worried about. There is a fine distinction. Take whatever action is in your control to make the situation better, then, having done that, do not keep ruminating on it pointlessly when it's just not very likely to happen to you.

Stop lumping people who don't want to fret about it in with people who actually think the gun status quo is OK. Of course it's not OK, and should change. That doesn't mean we need to obsess over it. It just happens to be an issue that is very effective at driving media engagement.

By all means, vote and write to your lawmakers -- this actually drives change. But don't waste much time doomscrolling and ruminating -- this does not help, and only helps enhance media company shareholder bottom lines.

The point is that kids these days are exposed to constant encouragement to ruminate, ruminate, ruminate. This doesn't translate into actual action, it just translates into anxiety and depression, and increased dividends for media companies.

Re: Social media can be a ‘profound risk’ to youth, surgeon general warns

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If 0.7% is accurate, then your kid's chances of dying in a car crash for any given year (1 in 93 = 1.07% [1]) is less than your chance of being in a school shooting during your entire childhood! But the cultural framing (or lack thereof) makes the risk of driving in a car _feel_ like it's completely different [1] https://injuryfacts.nsc.org/all-injuries/preventable-death-o...

no way does 1 in 93 kids die in a car crash for any given year

Double checking the link, those are lifetime percentages, not annual. Mea culpa
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