Own-goal football (2022)
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Own-goal football (2022)
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#2> Football has a lot of strange rules – like Ted Lasso, I still don’t understand exactly how the offside rule works.
Spoiler alert, he did figure it out in the end
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#3> Football has a lot of strange rules – like Ted Lasso, I still don’t understand exactly how the offside rule works. Spoiler alert, he did figure it out in the end
He started not knowing a thing about soccer, but ended up knowing at least one thing about football.
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#4Wiki article
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbados_4%E2%80%932_Grenada
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/74831-barbados-vs-grenad...
Note this isn't possible in today's rules, afaik
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#5> Any goal scored in extra time would count as two goals
That seems like a really strange rule to have
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#6> Football has a lot of strange rules – like Ted Lasso, I still don’t understand exactly how the offside rule works. Spoiler alert, he did figure it out in the end
Every now and then, it seems as if some referees are a bit unclear on the details as well. (It is admittedly a bit squishier than when there is a hard and fast line on some field or court.
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#7Sports is one of the most fascinating and underexplored examples of Goodhart's law (collapsing correlation between the metric and a goal).
One of the most widely known examples of this is a London 2012 badminton scandal, when tournament design led to misaligned incentives for teams (it was beneficial for them to lose a game, to meet with less formidable opponent known beforehand). But there are dozens of such cases across many sports. One of the attempts to collect them can be found in a paper "When sports rules go awry" (DOI: 10.1016/j.ejor.2016.06.050).
UPD. Thanks to sibling comment, good find - youtube playlist from Secret Base "Weird Rules": https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUXSZMIiUfFSVTX8z2Xl5...
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#8> Any goal scored in extra time would count as two goals That seems like a really strange rule to have
something similar could arise even without double goals in extra time. let’s say your opponents have a man sent off, and you’re up by 1 with minutes left to play, but you need 2 or 3 to qualify. an own-goal to give yourself 30 extra minutes to score those few goals against a weakened opposition is probably the best choice
it’s "no draws" rather than "double goals" that creates the unusual incentive. double goals just exacerbates it
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#9How do you defend against an opponent trying to score an own goal? Wouldn’t it be off-sides if you got between the player and their goal?
Re: Own-goal football (2022)
#10Sports is one of the most fascinating and underexplored examples of Goodhart's law (collapsing correlation between the metric and a goal). One of the most widely known examples of this is a London 2012 badminton scandal, when tournament design led to misaligned incentives for teams (it was beneficial for them to lose a game, to meet with less formidable opponent known beforehand). But there are dozens of such cases a…
Also interesting is how lots of rules have standard penalties - and this turns them into potential strategic components rather than something you aren't allowed to do. It's not cheating to break these rules, it's considered part of the game.