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Re: Show HN: I made CSS Pro, a re-imagined Devtools for web design

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Post by last_responder »

rcconf wrote: post #69

Honestly the comments are a good example on how difficult it is to sell to developers and why startup ideas that target developers are dangerous to bootstrap. Developers have high incomes, but are quite frankly, extremely cheap. And I actually mean cheap and not frugal. They will spend 40 hours/week for months to save $5/mo. There's basically no logic apart from that developers have a poor concept of time and money a…

>Developers, my only word of advice, is seriously.. stop being so cheap and spend some money to make your lives easier.

>but I can guarantee that 99% of developers will not spend $30/month to make their lives easier.

Your post is insulting and it really seems like it is an ad for this product.

Re: Show HN: I made CSS Pro, a re-imagined Devtools for web design

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Post by umaar »

jw1224 wrote: post #40

If this had some way to convert to/from Tailwind classes, I would purchase in an instant...

Using DevTools, you can extract all styles, even if they're scattered across loads of tailwind utility classes. Made a video on how to do this here: https://umaar.com/dev-tips/261-devtools-copy-all-styles-for-...

Re: Show HN: I made CSS Pro, a re-imagined Devtools for web design

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Post by ekianjo »

rcconf wrote: post #69

Honestly the comments are a good example on how difficult it is to sell to developers and why startup ideas that target developers are dangerous to bootstrap. Developers have high incomes, but are quite frankly, extremely cheap. And I actually mean cheap and not frugal. They will spend 40 hours/week for months to save $5/mo. There's basically no logic apart from that developers have a poor concept of time and money a…

> Developers, my only word of advice, is seriously.. stop being so cheap and spend some money to make your lives easier.

30 USD here, 30 USD there, soon enough your bills go in the hundreds or thousands of dollars.

Re: Show HN: I made CSS Pro, a re-imagined Devtools for web design

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Post by umaar »

shireboy wrote: post #35
aosaigh wrote: post #29

The killer feature here would be hooking this up to Netlify/Vercel etc. and having a 2-way-write. Every time you update something in the CSSPro editor, your codebase is actually updated and the site is rebuilt in the background. This would let you essentially design in the browser and avoid the tedious copy/paste, rebuild, reload cycle.

This is what I’ve wanted for ages from browser dev tools. It’s now fairly standard to have hot refresh where the dev server uses websockets to control injecting changes and refreshing the browser when changes are made in the code files. I want to go the other way. If I tweak css in browser, have a way to write those changes back to the project. The real challenge would be traversing a change in browser css back to sc…

You can do this with Workspaces and it works well. Made a video on this here: https://moderndevtools.com/lessons/12

Re: Show HN: I made CSS Pro, a re-imagined Devtools for web design

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Post by jroseattle »

Just a suggestion on pricing: drop the lifetime option.

I've had a bunch of perpetual licenses I've acquired over a lifetime, and nearly every one of them have said "we have no record of you" after 5+ years. I know, I know...save the receipts and all that. But it's just frustrating.

Don't put yourself and your customer in a potentially problematic position of he-said-she-said. When you have recurring revenue with a more mature product (and a way to track those subscriptions that you won't end up scrapping), re-consider the perpetual license.

Re: Show HN: I made CSS Pro, a re-imagined Devtools for web design

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Post by quickthrower2 »

rcconf wrote: post #69

Honestly the comments are a good example on how difficult it is to sell to developers and why startup ideas that target developers are dangerous to bootstrap. Developers have high incomes, but are quite frankly, extremely cheap. And I actually mean cheap and not frugal. They will spend 40 hours/week for months to save $5/mo. There's basically no logic apart from that developers have a poor concept of time and money a…

* This tool may increase my time spent rather than save time. I need to spend time to find out. So I don’t buy every one of the million tools because I am too cheap. I don’t have time to evaluate all of them.

* I have no way of cashing in saved time anyway

* Developers can affect spending decisions at work worth $1000s to one SaaS at the expense of another or in addition. If we can save a hire through $50k/y in SaaS bills we will.

Re: Show HN: I made CSS Pro, a re-imagined Devtools for web design

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Post by aceazzameen »

rcconf wrote: post #69

Honestly the comments are a good example on how difficult it is to sell to developers and why startup ideas that target developers are dangerous to bootstrap. Developers have high incomes, but are quite frankly, extremely cheap. And I actually mean cheap and not frugal. They will spend 40 hours/week for months to save $5/mo. There's basically no logic apart from that developers have a poor concept of time and money a…

No. Monthly subscriptions suck. Every company wants to "tax" me monthly for something that's feature complete. The ones I already pay, I do so very begrudgingly. There's simply too many SaaS products out there.

Let's go back to perpetual licenses. And I'll gladly pay for upgraded versions, or not if the upgrade isn't worthwhile. When it's not SaaS, I also get to control what version I'm using. The product doesn't own me, I get to own the product.

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