Falcon 40B LLM (which beats Llama) now Apache 2.0
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Re: Falcon 40B LLM (which beats Llama) now Apache 2.0
#2Re: Falcon 40B LLM (which beats Llama) now Apache 2.0
#3This Falcon-40B royalty free license may force Meta ... that LLama-7B/13B may soon be fully open sourced as Meta wants open source LLM advancements and contributions on its own LLM architecture.
Re: Falcon 40B LLM (which beats Llama) now Apache 2.0
#4This Falcon-40B royalty free license may force Meta ... that LLama-7B/13B may soon be fully open sourced as Meta wants open source LLM advancements and contributions on its own LLM architecture.
Yann LeCun: "No. But it's not because we don't want to. It's because of complicated legal issues."
Re: Falcon 40B LLM (which beats Llama) now Apache 2.0
#5I saw this, I still am highly suspicious about the future of these models and later attempts at monetization. Did they really just drop their 10% royalty thing and decide they'll just open source all their models now?
Another comment mentions llama may get an open license, and there are other emerging alternatives. In six months there will be lots of options. I would not spend my time building anything around a model that started in such a sketchy way.
It would be interesting to hear about why they decided to change their license and what their plans are for the future.
I admit Falcon has really pissed my off because they pretended they had an open source model when they really released a sleazy freemium thing.
Re: Falcon 40B LLM (which beats Llama) now Apache 2.0
#6I saw this, I still am highly suspicious about the future of these models and later attempts at monetization. Did they really just drop their 10% royalty thing and decide they'll just open source all their models now? Another comment mentions llama may get an open license, and there are other emerging alternatives. In six months there will be lots of options. I would not spend my time building anything around a model…
Do you consider the Unity model "sleazy"? But I agree that it was poor form to call it open-source at the time. Sadly, it seems to be standard practice in the LLM space to release models with all kinds of restrictions on use and call them "open source".
Well now Falcon is open source. Given they are giving away something that was very expensive to train, I am grateful.
Re: Falcon 40B LLM (which beats Llama) now Apache 2.0
#7I saw this, I still am highly suspicious about the future of these models and later attempts at monetization. Did they really just drop their 10% royalty thing and decide they'll just open source all their models now? Another comment mentions llama may get an open license, and there are other emerging alternatives. In six months there will be lots of options. I would not spend my time building anything around a model…
Do you consider the Unity model "sleazy"? But I agree that it was poor form to call it open-source at the time. Sadly, it seems to be standard practice in the LLM space to release models with all kinds of restrictions on use and call them "open source". Well now Falcon is open source. Given they are giving away something that was very expensive to train, I am grateful.
I don't know unity's model. I call Falcon sleazy because the royalty stuff (plus a bunch of absurd related terms) were buried in the license while the headline said open source. I'm not against commercial products, nor products with free and premium tiers. This otoh felt, like I say, just sleazy.
Re: Falcon 40B LLM (which beats Llama) now Apache 2.0
#8This Falcon-40B royalty free license may force Meta ... that LLama-7B/13B may soon be fully open sourced as Meta wants open source LLM advancements and contributions on its own LLM architecture.
Meta's eventual, internal LLM architecture will be totally different than the open source LLMs, right? They don’t need to run on commodity hardware.
Maybe I am cynical, but I dont see the incentive for Meta to contribute an open model.
Re: Falcon 40B LLM (which beats Llama) now Apache 2.0
#9I saw this, I still am highly suspicious about the future of these models and later attempts at monetization. Did they really just drop their 10% royalty thing and decide they'll just open source all their models now? Another comment mentions llama may get an open license, and there are other emerging alternatives. In six months there will be lots of options. I would not spend my time building anything around a model…
Well if its Apache 2.0 now, can't you clone it as-is and have it be open "forever?"
Re: Falcon 40B LLM (which beats Llama) now Apache 2.0
#10I saw this, I still am highly suspicious about the future of these models and later attempts at monetization. Did they really just drop their 10% royalty thing and decide they'll just open source all their models now? Another comment mentions llama may get an open license, and there are other emerging alternatives. In six months there will be lots of options. I would not spend my time building anything around a model…
Well if its Apache 2.0 now, can't you clone it as-is and have it be open "forever?"
That's part of why I'm interested in their motivation changing licenses. They obviously had a profit motive and a model that centered on collecting rents on the model and decided to back off from it.
Will they keep maintaining their code and improving the models and continue releasing everything under Apache 2.0?
I'm just saying I feel like we got a glimpse of what they're about and it wasn't pretty, so why build around them when there are lots of options.