The original links here, to the actual question asked and the answer by the minister: https://kiitaka.net/21312/
This sounds like the exact opposite of what the title is claiming.
Japan’s government will not enforce copyrights on data used in AI training
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#22I think this should generally be true. The aggregation performed by model training is highly lossy and the model itself is a derived work at worst and is certainly fair use. It may produce stuff that violates copyright, but the way you use or distribute the product of the model that can violate copyright. Making it write code that’s a clone of copyright code or making it make pictures with copy right imagery in it or…
There's no difference between an art student looking through a museum or archives for ideas and an AI using the material for training.
Same could be said for reading. A medical student reading through textbooks or a writer who reads is essentially what an AI is doing.
You can ask an art student to create something in a certain style. You can get writes to write in a certain style. Equivalent.
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#23Considering the amount of animes Japan does produce, they could very probably train amazing AIs: they could assist in a significant way the creative process of such studios (look at digital corridor experiment). Worth to try for a long time and maybe waste a lot of resources.
It'd be really great to finally see some anime models hit the Stable Diffusion scene.
I hope this is sarcasm :)
The anime crowd were years ahead of the curve. https://www.thiswaifudoesnotexist.net/ came out in 2019
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#24Miyazaki will definitely hate it. The last time someone demoed AI animation he said "I would never wish to incorporate this technology into my work at all. I strongly feel that this is an insult to life itself." [1] And that was before stuff like GPT-1 or Stable Diffusion exist. [1] https://www.indiewire.com/features/general/hayao-miyazaki-ar...
There is a pair of videos on this subject that I find rather good and informed. They are from the channel "The Art of Aaron Blaise" ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Blaise )
Disney Animator REACTS to AI Animation! https://youtu.be/xm7BwEsdVbQ (this is watching the Corridor Crew's video)
Why AI will NOT be taking Your Animation job - https://youtu.be/-lhbzbSck04
Re: Japan’s government will not enforce copyrights on data used in AI training
#25So if you train an audio model on say, Eminem's voice, then write some songs and have it perform them...Would this output be legal to publish?
IIUC/IANAL: depends on whether anyone feels the data to be "it" or not. Provenance is not too relevant.
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> This is a horrible decision from Japan.
Eh, I doubt it.
AI is potentially something that can massively increase productivity. With a declining population in the foreseeable future, an increased productivity may well be a boost that they need.
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#27So if you train an audio model on say, Eminem's voice, then write some songs and have it perform them...Would this output be legal to publish?
What's the difference between that and someone else who just happens to sound like Eminem in terms out output? As long as you don't market yourself as Eminem that should be completely legal.
I suppose so. I'm just imagining these "ghost AI artists" who publish catalogues of music using the audible likeness of more prolific artists.
I know that you could have always just hired an Eminem impersonator and have them lay down tracks...but this technology lets you achieve speed and scale. At least the Eminem impersonator was a real person. This is just a model learned off an artists voice.
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#28I think this should generally be true. The aggregation performed by model training is highly lossy and the model itself is a derived work at worst and is certainly fair use. It may produce stuff that violates copyright, but the way you use or distribute the product of the model that can violate copyright. Making it write code that’s a clone of copyright code or making it make pictures with copy right imagery in it or…
>The aggregation performed by model training is highly lossy and the model itself is a derived work at worst and is certainly fair use.
I mean, I've literally gotten the Superman logo in Stable Diffusion without even trying, so it isn't that lossy.
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Am I allowed to distribute these ROMs of Pokemon games over BitTorrent? I don't own Pokemon.
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#30If you're not going to socialize AI gains, and leave in place the social systems that value people by their output, waiving copyright or other IP is astoundingly anti-humane. What should be instead is that fair use doesn't apply to AI training. That is, anything other than explicitly negotiated opt-in should be illegal.
Eh, I disagree. Copyright laws are mostly bullshit anyway, and only tend to favor capital holders, who tend to buy up all the copyright they need. I would gladly see copyright rendered useless.
The peasantry hardly benefits from it anyway.