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Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing

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Post by clmckinley »

tacker2000 wrote: post #507

Someone should invest in Apollo, build a reddit clone and just let the app run on that. Screw the “actual” reddit. The Apollo app has a huge install base anyway. Problem is only, how long will this all take?

Yes, get some limited funding to build out the infrastructure. We can build a platform that is better for the users and that will get them all to come. We will make it modern and very easy for third parties to help build on top of it this will increase value and uptake.

We will need to pay for servers and dev time so maybe we can allow our users to donate to upkeep. Maybe call it new service platinum. Unfortunately, most people don't pay so maybe we can have a limited number of non-intrusive ads on the site. Well now people with equity want some money back so we need to figure out how to make some more money. These third party apps aren't showing our ads, so lots of our power users use these third party apps and lots of companies are leveraging our service to make lots of money. The obvious answer is to get some money back from the api users. I shall call this site reddit.

Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing

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Post by [deleted] »

gaudat wrote: post #480

I have a story to tell, about the demise of one of the largest internet forums in my language. About ten years ago, when smartphones just started appearing, the forum did not have a mobile version, and there are various 3rd party clients on the App Store or Android Market. Later on, one of the largest 3rd party client was blocked, because of they hammering the forum's servers too hard,. Or something about caching and…

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Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing

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Post by babypuncher »

xavdid wrote: post #513
api_or_ipa wrote: post #346

The reality is that Apollo doesn't serve intrusive ads, and thus, every user using Apollo instead of their own first party apps is lost revenue. Unfortunately, reddit is in that late stage monetization step where they need to prove they are capable of big revenue to justify a high IPO share price. One can only hope there'll be a watershed moment like the one that killed Digg. So far, reddit has been very careful rais…

> every user using Apollo instead of their own first party apps is lost revenue That's maybe true as a first-order effect. But, for the ads that everyone else sees to be worth anything, the site has to be worth visiting at all. If your most dedicated/prolific users mainly post/comment using third party apps, then making their experience worse will reduce the quality of the site overall (even if you start getting reve…

This is exactly what we've seen on Twitter. The already low bar for quality took a nosedive once they started ruining blue checkmarks and banning third party apps.

Twitter still maintains a critical mass of users and corporate accounts, but all the most talented creators (at least the ones I followed) have reduced their Twitter usage substantially or moved on completely.

Eventually new readers will stop showing up because there is no worthwhile content.

Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing

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Post by alfalfasprout »

dabluecaboose wrote: post #299
alfalfasprout wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't really agree. The curation on reddit just far, far better outside of the super generic frontpage subreddits. Tik tok is 99% garbage content.

>The curation on reddit just far, far better outside of the super generic frontpage subreddits. Even smaller subreddits can be pretty terrible with bad mods. A lot of smaller hobby subreddits are basically treated as facebook groups, with people treating it as a group for people with an interest and not a focused discussion about that interest,

Sure, bad mods are a problem sometimes. But you also run into a lot of extremely knowledgeable users in your particular area of interest and can actually have great back and forth discussion.

Be it cars, bikes, coffee, firearms, you name it.

For hobbies I've found Tiktok is riddled with low quality content.

I suppose it really depends what you're looking for.

Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing

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Post by telotortium »

Zetice wrote: post #162

I blocked the reddit.com domain from all of my devices a few weeks ago, because until recently I didn't feel like I could keep my finger on the pulse of "The Internet" without Reddit. That's no longer the case. Google's "For You" gets me my niche subject-specific content, Google News/Memeorandum (and its sibling sites)/Apple News gives me the mainstream media perspectives, HN (and maybe Bluesky occasionally) my urge…

I mostly use Reddit for city subreddits. Despite the overall political bias of Reddit these days, they have a habit of uncovering and bringing to widespread attention a lot of stories that I wouldn't hear about otherwise. Nextdoor and Facebook generally don't cover a wide enough range of topics and are almost impossible to use to read a lot of stories. For everything else, I feel that Discord, Twitter, and forums can replace Reddit pretty handily now.

Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing

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Post by ipaddr »

gaudat wrote: post #480

I have a story to tell, about the demise of one of the largest internet forums in my language. About ten years ago, when smartphones just started appearing, the forum did not have a mobile version, and there are various 3rd party clients on the App Store or Android Market. Later on, one of the largest 3rd party client was blocked, because of they hammering the forum's servers too hard,. Or something about caching and…

Soon another 3rd party client will be made that hammers the new site. That gets blocked and the circle goes on

Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing

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Post by alfalfasprout »

witchesindublin wrote: post #526
alfalfasprout wrote: post #169

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't really agree. The curation on reddit just far, far better outside of the super generic frontpage subreddits. Tik tok is 99% garbage content.

The main problem with Reddit is the moderation. It all hit the wall when Trump was elected and the Reddit directors decided to run around like chickens and clamp down on half the community. The website has become a far-left US-centric mass market echochamber.

For political subreddits, sure. But I'd argue there aren't really any great places on the internet to actually have nuanced political discussion anyways. It's dominated by folks with too much time on their hands... either radically far left or radically far right. And each group ostracizes members that don't subscribe to their brand or level of extremism.

Bottom line is it depends what kind of content you're looking for. For niche interests/hobbies, Reddit is very hard to beat.

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