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Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing

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Post by bakugo »

m348e912 wrote: post #197
PNewling wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you tried using the 'old' reddit? Replacing 'www.' with 'old.' will move you over to the old style of reddit and will keep you there when clicking through links. https://old.reddit.com/r/all/

old.reddit.com and Apollo are the only things that makes reddit usable. I suspect that there are plans to do away with old.reddit.com at some point. Maybe that will be reddit's Digg exodus moment. I read a thread on reddit about the api fees where commenters called out HN as the next site to move to. Hopefully not.

> reddit's Digg exodus moment

People keep bringing this up and I feel like there's a fundamental misunderstanding going on. The internet of 2010 is not the internet of today, not even close.

The average reddit user of today isn't going to stop using reddit due to problems like this because they just don't care, at all. They don't care about the new web design being a massive downgrade over the old one because they're used to every website looking like that, they have no complaints, many of them probably don't even know the old design still exists. They don't care that the app sucks and is full of ads because, again, most official apps for most websites are like that, it's the new normal. They just want to scroll through funny meme videos on their phone for a while and don't think about it beyond that, the age of the average user having standards is long, long gone.

Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing

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Post by dabluecaboose »

doix wrote: post #175
Zetice wrote: post #162

I blocked the reddit.com domain from all of my devices a few weeks ago, because until recently I didn't feel like I could keep my finger on the pulse of "The Internet" without Reddit. That's no longer the case. Google's "For You" gets me my niche subject-specific content, Google News/Memeorandum (and its sibling sites)/Apple News gives me the mainstream media perspectives, HN (and maybe Bluesky occasionally) my urge…

> but what they've left Reddit with as a differentiator are the communities. Yeah, I pretty much only use reddit for a few game communities, unfortunately with this change I suspect more and more people will move to discord. It's pretty annoying, but I suspect I'll have to eventually cave and join them when they finally kill old.reddit.com.

>Yeah, I pretty much only use reddit for a few game communities, unfortunately with this change I suspect more and more people will move to discord

Oh boy, I can't wait to have to join a specific game discord for every game I want to play or else be locked out of any community information!

Discords are easily killing a lot of hobbies by sequestering away information. And even when you're told "Oh that answer is on XYZ discord" you have to go in and find the conversation using Discords ever-shittier search function

Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing

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Post by Terretta »

consumer451 wrote: post #249

Can someone give me a couple reasons why it does not make sense to buy Apollo out, and make it the default iOS app? It is currently maintained by one excellent developer, is featured by the Apple App Store for design... what's the downside?

I'm having trouble remembering right now but I think that's how they got a prior app. Or maybe Twitter. Or Gmail getting an iOS app with amazing search...

These firms hirebuy (like acquihire but more money) a single dev with an amazing tool, and not long after the tool is terrible and the dev is out of there.

Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing

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Post by irrational »

thewataccount wrote: post #226
Banbeck wrote: post #171

Well, looks like this is the end of any social media use for me. Reddit was already hanging by a thread for me. Not being able to use Apollo for this will be the last nail in the coffin.

Serious question and I don't mean anything negative - Do you consider HN to be social media? Using it as just a news source seems really valid. And it feels different from other social media platforms because of the focus on full discussions. But surely this still counts as social media? Genuinely asking because I see you made your account just to post this comment - why did you do that? It's not a bad thing (I'm her…

No. It is not social media. Neither is Reddit. Social media is any platform that can be used to track you down to send you an invite to your high school reunion. That is, it is not anonymous. Social media is social - real people interacting with each other in a non anonymous manner. I have no proof that anyone on here, or Reddit, is not a bot except for me.

Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing

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Post by mongol »

Something like this at first feels like bad news, but may later turn out to be good. If something hooks me off Reddit and I use my time better, it is a net positive, for me. Unfortunately, Reddit has good parts to which I don't know alternatives. For example, right now I am studying for a certification and there is a subreddit for that. I recently bought an e-bike and there was a subreddit for that. It is useful.

Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing

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Post by dabluecaboose »

azemetre wrote: post #150
bluescrn wrote: post #145

Please Reddit, just let us use a web browser to access your web site. Users shouldn’t be forced so aggressively into using an ‘app’ - whether the official one or a 3rd-party app - when mobile web browsers are so very capable.

Ever since learning the phrase "enshittification" [1] from Cory Doctorow it becomes more apparent when it happens around you. I wonder if there is a "fediverse" for something like forums? I can never get into mastodon because it's not like forums and conversations between people are quite hard if you don't follow them. [1] https://www.wired.com/story/tiktok-platforms-cory-doctorow/

>I wonder if there is a "fediverse" for something like forums?

Closest thing I can think of is the .win communities which are very reddit-like in interface, but unfortunately mostly uh.... radical.

Reddit itself was open-source until 2018. I wonder if someone could easily spin up a docker container that allows one to self-host a local instance (e.g. one subreddit)

Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing

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Post by ohgodplsno »

tumult wrote: post #220

Reddit is a website. Just make normal browser requests. You don't have to use their "sanctioned" "API."

Unfortunately, that turns your app from "load consistent data" to "parse HTML that could change daily and try to keep up with a perpetually moving shit pie".

Not the greatest of experience, both for devs and users.

Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing

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Post by InitialLastName »

LeoPanthera wrote: post #228
idiotsecant wrote: post #212

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you do isntead of appending 'reddit' to google search? I could imagine dropping everything else but search is terrible for a lot of things without it.

For what it's worth, you should append "site:reddit.com" instead of just "reddit", to avoid being tricked by sites which simply include the word reddit.

I know I can do this, but FWIW my searches with just "reddit" nearly always get dozens of responses from reddit before they get anything from anywhere else.

Re: Had a call with Reddit to discuss pricing

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Post by alpaca128 »

thewataccount wrote: post #226
Banbeck wrote: post #171

Well, looks like this is the end of any social media use for me. Reddit was already hanging by a thread for me. Not being able to use Apollo for this will be the last nail in the coffin.

Serious question and I don't mean anything negative - Do you consider HN to be social media? Using it as just a news source seems really valid. And it feels different from other social media platforms because of the focus on full discussions. But surely this still counts as social media? Genuinely asking because I see you made your account just to post this comment - why did you do that? It's not a bad thing (I'm her…

Social media usually let you subscribe to specific users/groups, whether via friend requests or something else. The result is a network of users who follow each other. HN on the other hand doesn't feel more "social" to me than any oldschool forum. The focus is on content and usernames only exist to tell them apart.
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