Auschwitz museum criticizes use of death camp in politics
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#2“It is a sad, painful and unacceptable manifestation of the moral and intellectual corruption of the public debate, the state museum said."
EDIT: Many downvotes for a direct quotation...
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#4I understand the museum's position. However IMHO they missed an important teaching moment.
The holocaust was very much a political event, and to treat it otherwise is to excuse the broad public support that political movement had, and the widespread public participation involved.
Yes, the use in mass political* advertising can trivialize the crime by repetitive imagery, and I presume this is the origin of the stance of the museum. But it can also call out the rising risk of such a movement gaining power again.
If the memory souls who perished can be salved at all, it is to ensure that people understand the dynamics that led to what happened and ensure that it will happen nie wieder. So far the record since the end of WWII has not been encouraging in this regard.
* I do think the use of these images in non-political, non-historical contexts should be considered beyond the pale.
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#5I understand the museum's position. However IMHO they missed an important teaching moment. The holocaust was very much a political event, and to treat it otherwise is to excuse the broad public support that political movement had, and the widespread public participation involved. Yes, the use in mass political* advertising can trivialize the crime by repetitive imagery, and I presume this is the origin of the stance…
I think the point is that shallow references and use of Nazi images in ad hominem attacks does does not contribute meaningfully to any discussion.
If you want to use the Holocaust to draw a comparison, it should have substance. Without substance, anyone can make shallow comparisons.
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#6I understand the museum's position. However IMHO they missed an important teaching moment. The holocaust was very much a political event, and to treat it otherwise is to excuse the broad public support that political movement had, and the widespread public participation involved. Yes, the use in mass political* advertising can trivialize the crime by repetitive imagery, and I presume this is the origin of the stance…
> The holocaust was very much a political event, and to treat it otherwise is to excuse the broad public support that political movement had, and the widespread public participation involved.
Was it a political event tho? It wasn't something the Nazis were openly announcing they were doing. Sending them to camps was one thing, pretty much every country ended up creating camps to keep people during that time. If they were humanly treated in the camps there wouldn't be so much of an issue. It's that they went to extents that the German masses weren't aware of is what makes the holocaust a wtf. Lots of people use it for political purposes, but was it actually a political event when it was happening or did we just politicise it?
The holocaust to me was something they did in secret to their own population. Otherwise we need to group in all interment camps at the time.
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#7I'm more horrified by the discovery there are endless selfies taken there:
https://metro.co.uk/2017/01/19/powerful-images-that-show-why...
Re: Auschwitz museum criticizes use of death camp in politics
#8I understand the museum's position. However IMHO they missed an important teaching moment. The holocaust was very much a political event, and to treat it otherwise is to excuse the broad public support that political movement had, and the widespread public participation involved. Yes, the use in mass political* advertising can trivialize the crime by repetitive imagery, and I presume this is the origin of the stance…
> The holocaust was very much a political event, and to treat it otherwise is to excuse the broad public support that political movement had, and the widespread public participation involved. Was it a political event tho? It wasn't something the Nazis were openly announcing they were doing. Sending them to camps was one thing, pretty much every country ended up creating camps to keep people during that time. If they…
The nazi desire to exterminate all Jews was known. Jews were killed in the streets of towns. Some even involved mass killings. Towns bragged about being Jew free. Ignorance does not fly.
Yes there was some uncertainty of what happened at the camps. But it was well known even at the time that nazi’s camps meant death.
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#9I understand the museum's position. However IMHO they missed an important teaching moment. The holocaust was very much a political event, and to treat it otherwise is to excuse the broad public support that political movement had, and the widespread public participation involved. Yes, the use in mass political* advertising can trivialize the crime by repetitive imagery, and I presume this is the origin of the stance…
I think the point is that shallow references and use of Nazi images in ad hominem attacks does does not contribute meaningfully to any discussion. If you want to use the Holocaust to draw a comparison, it should have substance. Without substance, anyone can make shallow comparisons.
I think the point is to make it not ok to call powers practicing racism and genocide out for being nazi-like.
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#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
> The holocaust was very much a political event, and to treat it otherwise is to excuse the broad public support that political movement had, and the widespread public participation involved. Was it a political event tho? It wasn't something the Nazis were openly announcing they were doing. Sending them to camps was one thing, pretty much every country ended up creating camps to keep people during that time. If they…
The nazi desire to exterminate all Jews was known. Jews were killed in the streets of towns. Some even involved mass killings. Towns bragged about being Jew free. Ignorance does not fly. Yes there was some uncertainty of what happened at the camps. But it was well known even at the time that nazi’s camps meant death.
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