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Is this opinion based on some benchmarking you (or someone else) did?
I believe there are benchmarks, but I can informally second that opinion. I'm building a writing app (chiseleditor.com) and there is nothing as good as the ChatGPT models right now.
Ask HN: What's the best self hosted/local alternative to GPT-4?
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Re: Ask HN: What's the best self hosted/local alternative to GPT-4?
#112There is literally no alternative. You’re stuck with openai, and you’re stuck with whatever rules, limitations or changes they give you. There are other models, but specifically if you’re actively using gpt-4 and find gpt-3.5 to be below the quality you require… Too bad. You’re out of luck. Wait for better open source models or wait patiently for someone to release a meaningful competitor, or wait for openai to relea…
Guess there really is a moat.
Re: Ask HN: What's the best self hosted/local alternative to GPT-4?
#113I don't know the licensing and all that jazz (even if you self-host for your personal use it shouldn't matter). But, this paper[0] released a week ago claims " 99.3% of the performance level of ChatGPT while only requiring 24 hours of finetuning on a single GPU" (QLORA). A quick test of the huggingface demo gives reasonable results[1]. The actual model behind the space is here[2], and should be self-hostable with rea…
Incredible how people are underestimating ChatGPT or overestimating open-source models. A basic question: How can i join with SQL a column to a string separated with comma GPT-4: PostgreSQL: SELECT STRING_AGG(columnName, ', ') FROM tableName; Guanaco: Here is an example of how you could use the CONCAT function in MySQL to concatenate a string to a column value in a single-line query: SELECT CONCAT('The total price fo…
Well, you asked for sql and ansi sql function is listagg(), so technically this is not the right answer - and definitely a completely useless one for mysql or oracle users.
Re: Ask HN: What's the best self hosted/local alternative to GPT-4?
#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
This point is understated. So many people are going around like "I'm building an AI app!" when the reality is, OpenAI built an AI app, you're just designing a front end for it.
So, ChatGPT isn't a technology, it is a service.
The technology is just GPT and transformers, the open source alternatives are just not as advanced as the GPT4 model yet. It might change with current trajectory, mainly because OpenAI keeps nerfing it.
Re: Ask HN: What's the best self hosted/local alternative to GPT-4?
#115Earlier quoted context omitted.
This point is understated. So many people are going around like "I'm building an AI app!" when the reality is, OpenAI built an AI app, you're just designing a front end for it.
OpenAI builds an LLM and an api-interface to that model. The design of abstractions, prompt engineering, custom fine-tunes and software engineering required to ship a valuable application on top of that interface counts as "building an app" in my book.
Re: Ask HN: What's the best self hosted/local alternative to GPT-4?
#116The answer to this question changes every week. For compatibility with the OpenAI API one project to consider is https://github.com/go-skynet/LocalAI None of the open models are close to GPT-4 yet, but some of the LLaMA derivatives feel similar to GPT3.5. Licenses are a big question though: if you want something you can use for commercial purposes your options are much more limited.
Re: Ask HN: What's the best self hosted/local alternative to GPT-4?
#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is this opinion based on some benchmarking you (or someone else) did?
I believe there are benchmarks, but I can informally second that opinion. I'm building a writing app (chiseleditor.com) and there is nothing as good as the ChatGPT models right now.
Re: Ask HN: What's the best self hosted/local alternative to GPT-4?
#118How much GPU memory do you have access to? If you can run it, Guanaco-65B is probably as close as you can get in terms of something publicly available. https://github.com/artidoro/qlora . But as other comments mention, it's still noticeably worse in my experience.
I was wondering how much GPU memory does G-65B need, and from the docs, it's "48GB".
Re: Ask HN: What's the best self hosted/local alternative to GPT-4?
#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
OpenAI builds an LLM and an api-interface to that model. The design of abstractions, prompt engineering, custom fine-tunes and software engineering required to ship a valuable application on top of that interface counts as "building an app" in my book.
how can you finetune gpt-4 or 3.5? The shell/wrapper around a request to open AI is not any worthy piece of software, It'd be more impressive to vend those services. Otherwise it's basically just a few scripts.
https://cloud.google.com/vertex-ai/docs/generative-ai/models...
Re: Ask HN: What's the best self hosted/local alternative to GPT-4?
#120Earlier quoted context omitted.
This point is understated. So many people are going around like "I'm building an AI app!" when the reality is, OpenAI built an AI app, you're just designing a front end for it.
OpenAI builds an LLM and an api-interface to that model. The design of abstractions, prompt engineering, custom fine-tunes and software engineering required to ship a valuable application on top of that interface counts as "building an app" in my book.
I don’t think OpenAI’s contribution should be so understated- they built a technology that was considered science fiction just a few years ago. They deserve all the credit for the “AI”.