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> You're assuming it breaks laws, but it doesn't have to, it just makes it easier to do something that's painful to do either by design or due to shitty economic circumstances Even if your sending end is regulated, at the other end, there has to be a regulated bank. If not, the person who is receiving the "money" could be breaking their country's laws. Cryptocurrencies don't magically change that. Otherwise, PayPal o…
People have been using https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawala to avoid problems with modern banks and regulations. How regulated is Hawala?
Molly White Tracks Crypto Scams. It’s Going Just Great
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Re: Molly White Tracks Crypto Scams. It’s Going Just Great
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> I really don't get how people can believe a single second that this kind of projects can make any sense. I don’t either, given that > writing anything else on a given blockchain only guarantees that this something else is written on this given blockchain, and if you don't have any external authority that can make it true (for example, the justice system to which you can go if the person to whom you have paid for a…
If you actually want to know: https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/Speech-M... That’s from the UK head of civil justice. Read points six through nine. Then https://medium.com/humanizing-the-singularity/the-best-of-bo... Which explains how we get real world facts on to the blockchain in an economically secure way. No, you cannot do this with a database. Bear in mind I’m also http://myhopeforthe.world an…
You're building a casino, and on the inside, you're selling plots on the moon and names in a star registry.
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How long did it take Amazon to move past its initial goals and start to deliver on a broader set of principles? How long has Crypto remained a bottomless pit of fraud and greed?
to maintain a standard of discussion here because it feels like hn bias just hit: there are more applications of a distributed database at 400ms latency than fraud. falling into ad hominem attacks feels immature.
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My numbers are sourced from Wise’s own website. 1K GBP to CAD has a £5.02 fee and takes two days. > How does crypto handle fraud? Not every transactional system needs to adhere to the same set of antiquated and arduous AML checks and balances; which often break (either by allowing fraud to occur or incorrectly flagging and delaying valid transactions). For comparison, Cash App has no dispute mechanism: https://cash.a…
I think the logical flaw is in the assumption that AML checks are a bug in traditional money transfer systems when in fact they are a government-imposed feature (largely following on from September 11 and the expanded scope of the FATF[1]). Therefore the same rules will eventually apply to cryptocurrency financial transactions negating many of the advantages that an unregulated process has when compared to a regulate…
As to your fundamental question, the above might already hint at it: decentralization. It’s an open source spec; shared and unified across the globe, that is not in the control of any one state government or private company. Other features like near-instant settlement times, programmability, 100% uptime, privacy (ZKP), permissionless usage, minimal transaction fees (L2)—these are all practical bonuses that do improve on the status quo in today’s payment processors.
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I don't think it's true that the tech is in its infancy. I'd say it's pretty mature by now, reaching a mostly steady state.
Not to be rude but you obviously don't follow any of the technology so why even comment on it? Huge advancements in zero knowledge cryptography have been made in the last year. Ethereum activated Proof of Stake in September. New DeFi primitives are released regularly. It's actually hard to keep up with all of the research and releases which is why your comment is so perplexing unless it was made in bad faith.
What people mean here is that general innovation is dead in token industry, finding a new niches, new industries. All attempts have dies in 2018 or so. Decentralized storage, decentralized compute (with blockchain), decentralized LoRaWan, decentralized identities, decentralized off-chain ownership and so on and so forth. All failed spectacularly.
The only innovation remaining is simply more advanced instruments for scammers and illegal finance operations. That is innovation, but not particularly interesting for mass market.
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The only "goal" of crypto is to make money. Anything else is just worn as a mask for promotion because, "Lie, cheat, steal" isn't a great set of principles for a new economic universal ledger. What crypto has become has showed just how wrong Satoshi was about people. Crypto COULD have been everything he hoped for. It could have been a system where everyone participated, with millions of nodes. Instead it became somet…
> The only "goal" of crypto is to make money. Anything else is just worn as a mask for promotion because, "Lie, cheat, steal" isn't a great set of principles for a new economic universal ledger. This is exactly why generalizing doesn't work. The most visible parts of the crypto space (exchanges, VC-funded blockchain, etc...) are there simply to make money. If you meet some of the longer-term devs, you'll see a comple…
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If you actually want to know: https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/Speech-M... That’s from the UK head of civil justice. Read points six through nine. Then https://medium.com/humanizing-the-singularity/the-best-of-bo... Which explains how we get real world facts on to the blockchain in an economically secure way. No, you cannot do this with a database. Bear in mind I’m also http://myhopeforthe.world an…
More than any post I've read on HN, this screams "I'm a conman". You're building a casino, and on the inside, you're selling plots on the moon and names in a star registry.
You can actually read the legal contracts which make that happen at mattereum.com/land — go over it with a lawyer, they’ll explain how it works.
It’s straight forward contract law. The property has to be in an SPC (special purpose vehicle) but that’s standard for all commercial real estate and quite a bit of high end residential.
It’s just a lot of lawyering. It actually works.
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If you actually want to know: https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/Speech-M... That’s from the UK head of civil justice. Read points six through nine. Then https://medium.com/humanizing-the-singularity/the-best-of-bo... Which explains how we get real world facts on to the blockchain in an economically secure way. No, you cannot do this with a database. Bear in mind I’m also http://myhopeforthe.world an…
First of all, there's no such thing as "the UK head of civil justice". England & Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland are three separate legal jurisdictions. Anyway, I decided to go straight to the source and look at the report that Sir Vos is referencing in his speech. You can read it here: https://cms.lawtechuk.io/uploads/report_smarter_contracts.pd... Most of the uses of blockchain cited are not Web3, but example…
1) it takes four months on average to transfer real estate in the UK. It’s about the same in most other counties.
2) with our system that is reduced to one KYCAMLCTF/source of funds check, and an atomic swap on Ethereum.
Two days and most, and instant if you pre-clear the money.
3) getter a property legally ready for that transaction takes some time of course, but that work is mostly reused in subsequent transactions.
4) this is of most utility to large property companies not invisible house buyers. Developers and REITs for example.
5) no, you cannot do this with a database, a database can’t clear a $1.2m payment in real-time or create legally binding digital signatures on electronic versions of paper contracts, at least not without a vast amount of middleware. It’s a real blockchain use case.
Right now there is no meaningful electronic trading venue for real estate. The closest you get is listed REIT stock on stock exchanges.
Roughly three trillion of transactions a year for real estate. It’s a worthy market.
Not, I think you’ll find, a solution looking for a problem. A very large market indeed which has so far not found an electronic trading system that suits its operational and commercial needs.
As MICA in the EU and other similar legislation around the world clear out the pirate finance people the blockchain will simply normalise as a standard technology for doing transactions. If we also see central bank digital currency — it seems certain in at least some jurisdictions - that removes another set of uncertainties.
The UK Law Commission recently published a 550 page consultation document on digital assets in the UK. As that rolls into legislation the grey area will evaporate and we would expect mass adoption for B2B use cases to begin.
That’s certainly the government’s intention.
Yes there are a lot of naive grifters in the blockchain space. There are also a lot of world class technologists and lawyers. There are people breaking the law, or breaking laws which should exist! And there are people creating the enabling legislation.
Because you’ve been listening to propaganda not thinking for yourself, you have pre-judged the situation without understanding what the legislative agenda from the larger governments will enable. And I don’t mean USA here, that’s just a mess, but the world is bigger than just America.
Re: Molly White Tracks Crypto Scams. It’s Going Just Great
#269And too right the critics like Molly are about crypto. There is no need to kid ourselves here anymore to even entertain crypto. Crypto is a complete scam, with no legitimate or legal use case and nothing else to offer anybody. I only wish crypto died sooner and that nobody uses it. We have other systems that are more robust than crypto that is used in the order of hundreds of millions such as UPI, PIX, Wise, Mpesa, S…
Waving flags for payment systems that enable fascist wannabe dictators to cling on to power - well done.
"FedNow is coming in a months time so it should hasten crypto’s inevitable downfall faster."
You arent even trying to be original here. Wonder which twitter account you stole that from
Re: Molly White Tracks Crypto Scams. It’s Going Just Great
#270And too right the critics like Molly are about crypto. There is no need to kid ourselves here anymore to even entertain crypto. Crypto is a complete scam, with no legitimate or legal use case and nothing else to offer anybody. I only wish crypto died sooner and that nobody uses it. We have other systems that are more robust than crypto that is used in the order of hundreds of millions such as UPI, PIX, Wise, Mpesa, S…
No legal use case? Really? Honest question are you legitimately excited for FedNow? What problem will it solve? What does FedNow have to do with cryptos downfall? Does FedNow fix our 120% debt to gdp ratio? Estimates of inflation required to get our debt to gdp back to 50% is 4-5 years of 12-20% inflation. You don't want inflation? Well then I guess the US is going to default on our loans. 98% of countries in the las…
They are just regurgitating tweets from someone else