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Ask HN: Is it just me or GPT-4's quality has significantly deteriorated lately?

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Re: Ask HN: Is it just me or GPT-4's quality has significantly deteriorated lately?

#41
I only use GPT-3 as a coding assistant.

If my introduction to ChatGPT had been GPT-4 I would have not been anywhere near as impressed.

GPT-4 often refuses to do what it is asked whereas gpt-3 just happily writes the code.

If they retire GPT-3 then I'll be looking for other options.

GPT-4 just isn't the same thing.

Re: Ask HN: Is it just me or GPT-4's quality has significantly deteriorated lately?

#42

There's no doubt that it's gotten a lot worse on coding, I've been using this benchmark on each new version of GPT-4 "Write a tiptap extension that toggles classes" and so far it's gotten it right every time, but not any more, now it hallucinates a simplified solution that don't even use the tiptap api any more. It's also 200% more verbose in explaining it's reasoning, even if that reasoning makes no sense whatsoever…

Do you have by any chance tested the same question on the playground?

I've noticed a quality decrease iny telegram bot as well that directly uses the API, and it drives me crazy because model versioning was supposedly implemented specifically to avoid response change without notice

Re: Ask HN: Is it just me or GPT-4's quality has significantly deteriorated lately?

#43
Yep, whereas before it would generate a cohesive whole class in Typescript from a set of instructions, now it gives me the framework of the class with “// fill out the rest of the class here”. Worse than GPT-3.5. They’re going to lose subscriptions.

Re: Ask HN: Is it just me or GPT-4's quality has significantly deteriorated lately?

#44
I see these posts popup every now and then. I admittedly don't use GPT4 or chatGPT that often, but I don't notice that much of a difference. Is it possible you try to give it harder and harder tasks and it is failing at them instead of the easier tasks it solved when you used it before? Is it possible it is just scaled back due to over use? Is that possible? It could be a dumb dumb question. In my experience even a few weeks ago, for Swift and Kotlin I found that the outputs of chatgpt and gpt4 are comparably similar and sometimes useless without a good amount of human intervention.

Re: Ask HN: Is it just me or GPT-4's quality has significantly deteriorated lately?

#45
post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Try out Bard, it's coding is much improved in the last 2 weeks. I've unfortunately switched over for the time being.

“Bard isn’t currently supported in your country. Stay tuned!”

Same for me, I’m in Estonia :(

Re: Ask HN: Is it just me or GPT-4's quality has significantly deteriorated lately?

#46
Seems about the same to me and I have been using it daily for several months now for code, Spanish to English translations, and random stuff like film recommendations. The quality remains consistent.

I'm personally of the opinion that the observable jump in quality between 3.5 and 4 inflated people's initial assessment of its capabilities and with continued use they are noticing it's not actually the omniscient machine god that many are so inclined to believe.

Either way, these kinds of posts are meaningless without some kind of objective standard to judge the model by, everyone just sees what they want to see. Despite claims of GPT4 being nerfed, I've yet to see anyone actually show evidence of it. There have been dozens of studies done on its capabilities so this is something that can actually be demonstrated empirically if it's true.

Re: Ask HN: Is it just me or GPT-4's quality has significantly deteriorated lately?

#47
post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Try out Bard, it's coding is much improved in the last 2 weeks. I've unfortunately switched over for the time being.

“Bard isn’t currently supported in your country. Stay tuned!”

Google's passion for region locking is insane to me

Re: Ask HN: Is it just me or GPT-4's quality has significantly deteriorated lately?

#48
post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“Bard isn’t currently supported in your country. Stay tuned!”

Same for me, I’m in Estonia :(

You can use a VPN to use an American connection, it doesn't matter where your Google account is registered.

Re: Ask HN: Is it just me or GPT-4's quality has significantly deteriorated lately?

#50
Yeah 100%. It's much faster now, and I am almost certain they haven't made that much of an improvement in efficiency nor have they scaled it up to be that fast, if that's even how it works.

I think I read when it was released it was 32K tokens, then quickly scaled back to 8K tokens. I'm guessing now that they've further reduced it. Maybe it's 6000 tokens vs. GPT-3.5's 4K? I don't know. But it's certainly noticeably worse at every task I give it.

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