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A peek inside Japan's largest “Dagashi” store

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Re: A peek inside Japan's largest “Dagashi” store

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>On the other hand, when we have taken friends to the places we like that are far more laid back, at least one person has commented on how the service is "poor" or "inattentive." This is the problem. Most American diners actually want the server to act like their best friend and constantly interrupt them. People like you are a minority. >Foodservice in Europe, broadly, is one of those amazing but unexpected things I…

> Most American diners actually want the server to act like their best friend and constantly interrupt them Seriously ? Don't Americans see how fake it is ? The French waiter does its job curtly and efficiently, neither him nor I pretend we are fond of each other and that is perfectly fine.

I just want my drinks kept relatively full, and if all that’s needed for that is a raised eyebrow or a nod, that doesn’t bother me.

The key is perfecting the “walk slowly past checking” without verbally interrupting.

Re: A peek inside Japan's largest “Dagashi” store

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> When asked about the future of the business, Hideyuki says he has no intention of doing business (in pursuit of profits) at all. He believes businesses exist to serve society and contribute back to people in the community. That they make profits are merely a side effect and that somewhere along the line the side effect became the main goal. If only more had his insight.

I, and many economists, would argue that the price signal, profit and "serving society" are more tightly interwound than many like Hideyuki are mislead to believe.

That just means money is not a valid measure of profit for him. There are other forms of profit as well.

Re: A peek inside Japan's largest “Dagashi” store

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It's always bittersweet when I visit Japan and come across old establishments or traditions that an ageing proprietor or volunteers are trying to keep going. You can see the love and spirit they have for it, but it often looks like something too disconnected from the interests of young people and the vicissitudes of the changing economy to survive for much longer. A kissaten (old-style cafe) owner in Nagasaki who sha…

I'm curious why you say interest in Jazz is waning. I went to the Tower Records in Shibuya and saw a live jazz performance a few months back, and it was magical. That's anecdotal, but I would love to know if tastes are shifting truly and why.

Re: A peek inside Japan's largest “Dagashi” store

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It's always bittersweet when I visit Japan and come across old establishments or traditions that an ageing proprietor or volunteers are trying to keep going. You can see the love and spirit they have for it, but it often looks like something too disconnected from the interests of young people and the vicissitudes of the changing economy to survive for much longer. A kissaten (old-style cafe) owner in Nagasaki who sha…

Someway along past the end of Isezaki Mall in Yokohama, there is a old Video game arcade full of 90s Street fighter machines, and also some custom ones running some arcane emulator software, full or 1000s of even more arcane titles from Japanese video game history, run by one ageing proprietor.

This one?

http://shouwaretro.com/spot/PIROPIRO-Gamecenter.html

Re: A peek inside Japan's largest “Dagashi” store

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post #73

It's always bittersweet when I visit Japan and come across old establishments or traditions that an ageing proprietor or volunteers are trying to keep going. You can see the love and spirit they have for it, but it often looks like something too disconnected from the interests of young people and the vicissitudes of the changing economy to survive for much longer. A kissaten (old-style cafe) owner in Nagasaki who sha…

I'm curious why you say interest in Jazz is waning. I went to the Tower Records in Shibuya and saw a live jazz performance a few months back, and it was magical. That's anecdotal, but I would love to know if tastes are shifting truly and why.

My experience is that jazz is still popular but jazz bars and kissaten and were smoky places where middle aged men went to drink coffee or whiskey. Young Japanese were not interested as they had a kind of old uncool image.

Re: A peek inside Japan's largest “Dagashi” store

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post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm curious why you say interest in Jazz is waning. I went to the Tower Records in Shibuya and saw a live jazz performance a few months back, and it was magical. That's anecdotal, but I would love to know if tastes are shifting truly and why.

My experience is that jazz is still popular but jazz bars and kissaten and were smoky places where middle aged men went to drink coffee or whiskey. Young Japanese were not interested as they had a kind of old uncool image.

Yeah, I went to one jazz club, and it was more about the whisky than the jazz. But, I hope interest does not die out completely. There is some great jazz history in Japan.

Re: A peek inside Japan's largest “Dagashi” store

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post #47

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Yes. A seldom discussed aspect of this is the ability to open a business in a residential area. Many of these small self-owned shop are the first floor of a house or building, and more often than not the owner lives upstairs, so it's less of an issue to keep it open with low frequentation as they're no paying extra rent or suffering hours of transit to get there. That also tremendously helps with the community aspect…

I lived in Tokyo and it was years ago, so I don't know if I'm describing the current situation. It was very common to see largish buildings in residential areas which would have some barely functioning retail shop on the ground floor. Some elderly relative of the building owner would maintain the shop, and would have practically nothing to do since the shop got almost no business. I heard the whole motivation for thi…

yeah, I like the vibe of these shops too but maybe there’s a bit of japan fetishization for a kind of commerce that anywhere else wouldn’t make sense to have.

One of the reasons for the Japanese economy’s stagnation over the last 20+ years is a lot of government spending on things that are not contributing to a healthy economy. I’m thinking about huge infrastructure projects but I’m sure this extends too many other aspects of how the economy is run.

Re: A peek inside Japan's largest “Dagashi” store

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> When asked about the future of the business, Hideyuki says he has no intention of doing business (in pursuit of profits) at all. He believes businesses exist to serve society and contribute back to people in the community. That they make profits are merely a side effect and that somewhere along the line the side effect became the main goal. If only more had his insight.

I, and many economists, would argue that the price signal, profit and "serving society" are more tightly interwound than many like Hideyuki are mislead to believe.

As Spider Robinson observed in a Callahan story, if you have another column in your life spreadsheet labelled 'satisfaction' then it all adds up.

Re: A peek inside Japan's largest “Dagashi” store

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> When asked about the future of the business, Hideyuki says he has no intention of doing business (in pursuit of profits) at all. He believes businesses exist to serve society and contribute back to people in the community. That they make profits are merely a side effect and that somewhere along the line the side effect became the main goal. If only more had his insight.

Businesses serve whatever the needs of the owner are. If Hideyuki is uninterested in profit, more power to him. However if another business owner only cares about making a (legal) profit, then more power to him.

Re: A peek inside Japan's largest “Dagashi” store

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I knew about Dagashi thanks to the manga Dagashi Kashi; you can also see one of the main characters on the left of Hideyuki Akiyama.

Yes! They have recreated the shop from the manga Dagashi Kashi ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dagashi_Kashi ) Their site is unfortunately completely and only in Japanese but scroll to the middle of the page and look for a section with number ④ for more photos of the corner: https://ohmachi-site.co.jp/floor/

This is really cool thanks
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