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median salary for a developer in Spain is $30,000 a year[1], so 50-80k would easily place them in the upper 10% of the scale.
I think americans need to really reflect on how inflated american dev salaries are.
[1] https://www.payscale.com/research/ES/Job=Software_Developer/...
They're not paying $80k, they're paying $80k plus an equity lottery ticket that hopefully has a chance of being worth millions.
The business models just seem naive or sometimes absurd.
"The average total compensation of a Software Engineer in Portugal is €39,094."
That’s a very typical salary range for developers in most parts of Europe. If your definition of “strong talent” means competing with top of market pay (FAANG etc) you’re right though.
I guess the 100k or even 200k, or 300k starting meme finally died at a time of record inflation no less.
> this salary wouldn't attract strong talent even in medium cost-of-living countries (like portugal/spain). median salary for a developer in Spain is $30,000 a year[1], so 50-80k would easily place them in the upper 10% of the scale. I think americans need to really reflect on how inflated american dev salaries are. [1] https://www.payscale.com/research/ES/Job=Software_Developer/...
I agree with OP. The salary is way too low for a senior European developer to consider because taking a US job means that there are no employment protections that you'd usually get; employment is at will for contractors.
Source: I live in the EU.
But they get nowhere near the respect an investor of that amount would get. Asking to sign onerous ndas. Doing fizz buzz on a whiteboard. Etc.
One time I refused to sign an nda for an interview and the founder basically blew a gasket. Spent half the interview talking about how bad it was I wouldn’t sign it.
> Do they offer something else which is unusually attractive? You can literally read the job description. Answer:no. Source: I've read the descriptions. > Intrigued to learn more. They are just companies. They either don't have money, or have money and want to lowball (it's good time to lowball).
> it's good time to lowball There's lowballing, and then there's insulting.
There’s senior engineers all over the world willing to work for a stable wage of $50k USD.
- Brazil
- Ukraine
- Pakistan
- India
- Mexico
They're not paying $80k, they're paying $80k plus an equity lottery ticket that hopefully has a chance of being worth millions.
I almost never come across a startup I’d actually want a lottery ticket in. The business models just seem naive or sometimes absurd.