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Health officials delayed report linking fluoride to brain harm

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Re: Health officials delayed report linking fluoride to brain harm

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It's worth thinking about the fact that virtually the entire EU gets by with non fluoridated water.

And I am happy to live in a country that doesn't fluoridate its water. That way I can just wait out the whole scientific and political discussion and start drinking fluoridated water when it has finally and conclusively has been proven that it's beneficial. I suspect it wont be though, because it seems like the real scientists are saying no and the political scientists are saying yes.

Re: Health officials delayed report linking fluoride to brain harm

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7068624/ "Review shows that Novamin has significantly less clinical evidence to prove its effectiveness as a remineralization agent in treating both carious and non-carious lesion. Hence, better designed clinical trials should be carried out in the future before definitive recommendations can be made."

I've read a few research papers that say essentially the opposite. I think you can find a study that supports your side most of the time.

The linked article is a meta analysis.

Re: Health officials delayed report linking fluoride to brain harm

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Twenty years ago, I moved from Michigan (a state that uses fluoride) to Mississippi (a state that doesn't use fluoride). My dentist at the time told me that I was going to end up with tooth decay if I stayed down there for more than a few years. Sure enough, five years later I moved back to Michigan and ended up with a cavity in an unusual place. My (new) dentist in Michigan was completely unsurprised. He said there…

> No decent dentist would ever work in Mississippi. This sounds like some elitist BS.

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Re: Health officials delayed report linking fluoride to brain harm

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post #182

Twenty years ago, I moved from Michigan (a state that uses fluoride) to Mississippi (a state that doesn't use fluoride). My dentist at the time told me that I was going to end up with tooth decay if I stayed down there for more than a few years. Sure enough, five years later I moved back to Michigan and ended up with a cavity in an unusual place. My (new) dentist in Michigan was completely unsurprised. He said there…

Is brushing twice a day with fluoridated toothpaste and floss or similar not a thing in the US? In Europe most countries don't fluoride tap water and there's not a massive tooth decay problem.

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Re: Health officials delayed report linking fluoride to brain harm

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I wonder why it's been so difficult to stop blanket water fluoridation. Maybe something to do with corpos having a cheap way to dump toxic waste from fertilizer production that would otherwise be expensive to dispose of:

https://www.cdc.gov/fluoridation/engineering/engineering-sho...

>The three fluoride additives used for water fluoridation are derived principally from phosphate fertilizer production.

Plus we don't just drink fluoridated water- we bathe in it, we cook with it, our pets drink it, we water our lawns with it, its everywhere. I recall trying to find studies on the effects of these non-drinking uses years ago and not finding much. Again, I wonder why.

Re: Health officials delayed report linking fluoride to brain harm

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not to refute your n=1, but reviews are a safer way of establishing whether something actually works. Eg here, from 2015: > There is insufficient information to determine whether initiation of a water fluoridation programme results in a change in disparities in caries across socioeconomic status (SES) levels. > No studies that aimed to determine the effectiveness of water fluoridation for preventing caries in adults…

Is caries the Spanish word for it or is that actually an English word for cavity as well?

It's originally a Latin word and, as many other Latin words, is now a medical term in English.

Re: Health officials delayed report linking fluoride to brain harm

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post #432

A reverse osmosis filtration system will remove the majority of ions from water, including fluoride. This enters into another scientific debate though, as some suggest that you are also removing beneficial minerals from the water at the same time.

My filter has a cartridge that adds beneficial minerals back in

Re: Health officials delayed report linking fluoride to brain harm

#450

It's worth thinking about the fact that virtually the entire EU gets by with non fluoridated water.

It's in other products instead. I think it depends on the country, but usually salt and toothpaste. I don't think there are any developed countries that have stopped fluoridation entirely.

Israel has completely stopped fluoridation.
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