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I’m also fairly certain an FFT of the audio would instantly uncover the repeating patterns. The repeating tones would show up as taller spikes.

Even easier would be computing the autocorrelation: essentially you just slide two copies of the signal until they match.

That sounds an awful lot like convolution…

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“Piracy is a service problem.” - Gabe Newell Also, Arkose Labs CAPTCHA (what HBO Max is using) is awful, please don't use it. There's reCAPTCHA, hCAPTCHA, mCAPTCHA, and now even Cloudflare Turnstile. Or better yet, recognize your costumers can still download the movie for free whether your service exists or not and adapt your strategy to provide them with content easier :)

Or use https://friendlycaptcha.com/.

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Non technical people struggle with these alot. My mum regularly asks for help when all she's done is ignore the captcha thinking it's an advert because it stands out like a Google ad (different UI, different font, extra branding etc). At least she's learnt to automatically ignore ads, but it comes with consequence of ignoring captchas as well...

The Internet as a whole has become very elderly unfriendly. Even the iPhone becomes an unnavigable mess once you’re trying to help someone 70+ work with it. And continually changing UIs definitely don’t help.

My parents are in their late sixties and travel internationally quite often and the lack of a physical SIM slot in new iPhones makes them not want to upgrade devices ever, because it would mean that they'd have to learn a whole new paradigm for installing and using eSIM when they're not very tech literate.

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I experienced the HBO Max captchas just a few days ago. Everyone did since they launched a new app and made everyone switch to that and re-login. Some of the solutions are clearly just wrong. I have a PhD in Computer Science and if I am failing multiple basic addition problems, I assure you that it isn't me, the answers are wrong. I had to do the same audio puzzles and got the first audio puzzle wrong too, and I even…

I am baffled as to why they had to launch an entirely new app rather than just rename the existing one. Could Apple have made them change the bundle ID? It's like they're putting in deliberate obstacles for existing subscribers.

Likely because Max isn't rolled out in all countries yet.

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you know what, my spouse actually wanted to subscribe to one of these kind of services. but now i guess i have to go back to the old way. could be piracy, or could be not watching any tv at all.

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I experienced the HBO Max captchas just a few days ago. Everyone did since they launched a new app and made everyone switch to that and re-login. Some of the solutions are clearly just wrong. I have a PhD in Computer Science and if I am failing multiple basic addition problems, I assure you that it isn't me, the answers are wrong. I had to do the same audio puzzles and got the first audio puzzle wrong too, and I even…

I wager they're trying to cheaply train some model by using the fact that people (paying customers!) wanna watch HBO

They're gonna disrupt the gigantic dice OCR market

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Heard about the Arkose sale tactics at Roblox (a site whose usability is also nuked by them)

I've been told Arkose pay people to run these captchas and present lots of fancy metrics of attacks they've stopped (when in reality with Captcha's like this a lot of that is normal users) which is why some websites seem to be ok with destroying user experience by running this

I'd be surprised if anybody in a technical role decided on this provider

Re: HBO Max new Captcha system

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I am baffled as to why they had to launch an entirely new app rather than just rename the existing one. Could Apple have made them change the bundle ID? It's like they're putting in deliberate obstacles for existing subscribers.

Likely because Max isn't rolled out in all countries yet.

Or more specifically not available in any other country: https://help.max.com/us/Answer/Detail/000002518

Hell, HBO Max became available in my country just last year, replacing HBO Go. And I know there used to be HBO Now in some places, so I guess we skipped that one. And no HBO is available in some of the places where you really expect it to be, like German speaking countries.

It's the most bafflingly stupid streaming service I ever had the displeasure of using.

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