This has devolved into a political discussion unfit for HN. The OP's submission history[1] is almost entirely political, and promoting a specific viewpoint. While I believe it's ok to discuss politics on HN, my view is that accounts that exist solely for political propaganda should be discouraged. 1: https://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=throwaway384629
India ruling party's IT cell used AI to show smile on arrested protesters' faces
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#412This account has been constantly submitting anti ruling party articles to demean India. Nothing in the article or proof otherwise which indicates that this was done by the rulling party. A lot of other articles submitted by this "throwaway" account are also questionable.
I have backed everything with sources in my posts? Can you point out if anything is not correct? Or do you have a general issue when something is said against ruling party? If you really care about reputation of India, how about advising someone in BJP to prevent this type of things from happening at first place?
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#413Earlier quoted context omitted.
That is what a lot of us think the real threat of "AI" is: not that it will autonomously produce bad outcomes for humanity, but because it's a tool that's indifferent to truth or falsehood it allows any kind of truth or reality based politics to be totally flooded out of the public sphere. Everyone ends up fighting in the hall of mirrors.
The Dallas shopping center shooting was the first time in my life I couldn’t tell the difference between online truth and lies. I’m very good as finding out the truth vs lies but this time I couldn’t. Usually disinformation is easy to spot but this time it came out so fast that I had no idea what was real vs fake. It’s a scary time to be living in when you have no idea what is real anymore.
Just do your best.
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#415This has devolved into a political discussion unfit for HN. The OP's submission history[1] is almost entirely political, and promoting a specific viewpoint. While I believe it's ok to discuss politics on HN, my view is that accounts that exist solely for political propaganda should be discouraged. 1: https://news.ycombinator.com/submitted?id=throwaway384629
In your opinion... I think AI manipulation of public opinion is a great topic for HN, IMNSHO
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I absolutely hate the way fellow Indians will just try and deflect negative stories about India as western propaganda. You do a disservice to your country by following that tired playbook. Did you ever stop to consider that I am actually well informed and genuinely disappointed with my country. Criticism of the country and party doesn’t mean I’m simply misinformed. I was critical of things when I lived there, I consu…
Sadly this is the line that the BJP and their followers have taken. Any criticism from outside India is "western propaganda". Any criticism from within India is "anti-nationalism", "pakistani" or "tukde-tukde gang".
I won't name names but I am pretty sure you have already guessed who I am talking about. Even in these wrestlers protests we clearly see who is the puppet master who is controlling the marionette. The same puppet master active during farmer protests. The same puppet master active during CAA protests. That face is pretty much constant.
Right now let us just accept this basic fact that there is no one, in the Opposition at least, who is a serious contender to Modi at the National Level. Or even Yogi or any of the other BJP leaders. This is sad truth for Opposition parties that it has to accept first before it can work on finding the right candidate for the job. But doing that is easier said than done. When the Opposition is fragmented and bickering amongst itself, there is no way it can put on a United front. It tried it multiple times and failed miserably every single time. And being just anti-Modi/anti-BJP won't win votes. You need to present a viable alternative that is actually capable of taking on not just Modi but also be able to represent India on an International level. I don't find anyone in the Opposition fit enough for that position. Sorry.
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>> Take the World Happiness Index 2023 which ranked India lower than Pakistan ... May be World Happiness Index 2023 data is bit flawed. But I don't think that means whole world is sharing propaganda against India. >> Heck we get 100Mbps-1Gbps unlimited internet connectivity anywhere in India at the lowest rates possible in the entire World. How is it an achievement of Government while this was done by private compani…
Okay then lets take the World Press Freedom Index 2023. India is behind Afghanistan by 9 points in Press Freedom. Explain how Taliban ruled Afghanistan grants more Press Freedom than Democratic India.
Make it make sense to me.
[1]: Afghanistan Press Freedom Index: https://rsf.org/en/country/afghanistan [2]: India Press Freedom Index: https://rsf.org/en/country/india
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#418Wait. It's shared here as a matter of fact, is it proven that it was done by some 'IT Cell' of the ruling party? It's HN, not Reddit, Twitter, Facebook or Whatsapp. I'm not denying their existence, but unless it's official or proven information please don't share it here.
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Yeah. The postmodernists (as I understand them) have been talking about "post truth" and "claims of truth are just assertions of power". And I've always thought that their position was insane. Now they look more like prophets. That world is increasingly the world we live in. The question becomes, how can we stay sane in that world? How can we find enough actual truth (truth that is actually true , true in the old sen…
> That world is increasingly the world we live in I think the point of the postmodernists was that was always the world we live in, it's just that the Internet has made it much more visible and we can see the fraying and the contradictions. It's just that, for a fairly narrow window of time and societies, there was enough of an honor culture about being caught lying that the discourse-reality matched fairly well the…
I think the internet has other effects like amplifying niche ideas.
If you were a conspiracy nut before the internet, your local friends will set you straight and either the conspiracy theories fade from your mind or they remain stagnant.
With the internet on the other hand, you can find other likeminded people, people who will accept your conspiracy theories and share their own which you will eagerly consume, and down the rabbit hole all of you will go.
It’s like a bunch of anorexic teen girls encouraging each other and sharing tips on how to starve and throw up. Very quickly you will have a bunch of dead kids.
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Eventually, some thing that we cannot control (e.g. Giant meteor, pandemic, etc) will come to destroy us. If it does, it will be our fault for not progressing fast enough in terms of knowledge. There is no world in which we could, or would want to limit our growth in terms of scientific knowledge. Not to mention the fact that to do so would mean ceding full totalitarian control.
Are you really arguing that we should have no boundries on progress for fear of a rogue asteroid destroying us all? Shouldn't we consider the risks of what we may accidentally break or purposely misuse along the way? Scientific knowledge comes with risks, both in how the tools can be used as well as errogant or misguided belief that we know enough to understand all meaningful implications of wielding said knowledge.…
Or we could try to progress everywhere, including in areas of safety from technological risk.