HBO Max new Captcha system • Hacker News Board

Re: HBO Max new Captcha system

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Post by bombcar » Tue, May 30, 2023, 2:05 AM UTC

12907835202 wrote: post #68

orf wrote: post #62

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The ChatGPT app uses this. The puzzle I got involved moving a train, it was super confusing and ridiculous. I was imagining a non-technical user doing these, and my god. No chance.

Non technical people struggle with these alot. My mum regularly asks for help when all she's done is ignore the captcha thinking it's an advert because it stands out like a Google ad (different UI, different font, extra branding etc). At least she's learnt to automatically ignore ads, but it comes with consequence of ignoring captchas as well...

The Internet as a whole has become very elderly unfriendly. Even the iPhone becomes an unnavigable mess once you’re trying to help someone 70+ work with it.

And continually changing UIs definitely don’t help.

Re: HBO Max new Captcha system

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Post by flangola7 » Tue, May 30, 2023, 2:05 AM UTC

paulgb wrote: post #20

So the audio captcha was just two one-of-three challenges? How does this slow an automated bot down, it could just guess repeatedly and get it right 1/9th of the time.

Mine never lets me use the audio option. It says I have to complete the captcha.

Re: HBO Max new Captcha system

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Post by phyzome » Tue, May 30, 2023, 2:05 AM UTC

I'm currently in a conversation with hCaptcha's Support team that has gotten a bit Kafka-esque. Apparently, in order to sign up for the Accessibility option, you need to... fill out a captcha.

Fantastic. Good job.

Re: HBO Max new Captcha system

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, May 30, 2023, 2:05 AM UTC

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Re: HBO Max new Captcha system

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Post by w-ll » Tue, May 30, 2023, 2:09 AM UTC

TechBro8615 wrote: post #91

sph wrote: post #44

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Serious question: who has a decent plan to create proof-of-human systems that are not only CAPTCHA based? We will soon need this, and I feel government will gladly present a solution: provide your ID when you connect to the Internet, and we will guarantee you are a human. Who's actually working on this and has released papers I can study? Because all this AI nonsense will only accelerate us towards this total control…

I'm pretty sure this was (is?) the idea behind Sam Altman's creepy "World Coin" which IIRC basically involves stamping your retina on a federated blockchain with Microsoft controlling the supernodes.

Make an AI good enough to solve captchas, to make the world use your retina scanning blockchain. Ok its starting to make sense.

Re: HBO Max new Captcha system

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Post by fortyseven » Tue, May 30, 2023, 2:10 AM UTC

Freedom2 wrote: post #104

Correction: it's just Max now, not HBO Max. Moderators, can we look at fixing up the title here so it's more accurate?

Was it really worth expending the energy to backseat moderate this?

Re: HBO Max new Captcha system

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Post by flangola7 » Tue, May 30, 2023, 2:11 AM UTC

sph wrote: post #46

naet wrote: post #43

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This is an old trick. For example all MailChimp embed forms have dummy inputs that are visually hidden but might be filled in by bots.

Maybe not visually hidden, but practically invisible to human: imagine a text box with color #fffffe on a white background. Visually impossible to discern for most humans on most screens, but for a machine #fffffe is totally distinct from #ffffff, and fully visible if display != none. As AI becomes more intelligent, you can prove humanity by exploiting our weaknesses. (Another idea. Have a random image on a page actu…

This trick would not defeat GPT-4

Re: HBO Max new Captcha system

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Post by bombcar » Tue, May 30, 2023, 2:13 AM UTC

Prickle wrote: post #82

rickstanley wrote: post #26

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Not to mention the dire login redirection from Microsoft services that messes up your browser's back button... ugh .

Why do they do that? It is legitimately awful and makes me hate ever having to access Microsoft resources.

I believe it has to do with setting cookies on every possible domain that the single sign on could be used on. I hate it and it sometimes breaks.

Re: HBO Max new Captcha system

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Post by flangola7 » Tue, May 30, 2023, 2:18 AM UTC

Why is there a captcha at all? A paid subscription is a stronger signal of humanness than any captcha. I don't even see what use a bot would be in the first place.

Re: HBO Max new Captcha system

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Post by albert_e » Tue, May 30, 2023, 2:18 AM UTC

ethanbond wrote: post #2

This is going to be one of the best parts of the new AI-ridden world: humans gradually getting locked out of and giving up on online services because the bots are more patient and more skilled at proving their humanness than humans are. Twitter’s new captchas are also pretty insane, though not quite this bad last I ran into them.

this scenario sounds somewhat similar to what is described in The Matrix movie.

in trying to prevent bots from dominating, we end up making life very difficult for ourselves.

In the movie it is said that humans have scorched the skies in a bid to deny solar energy to the machines. But now humans have to live under dark skies.