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Re: HBO Max new Captcha system

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Post by PascLeRasc »

rendaw wrote: post #93
jacurtis wrote: post #9

I experienced the HBO Max captchas just a few days ago. Everyone did since they launched a new app and made everyone switch to that and re-login. Some of the solutions are clearly just wrong. I have a PhD in Computer Science and if I am failing multiple basic addition problems, I assure you that it isn't me, the answers are wrong. I had to do the same audio puzzles and got the first audio puzzle wrong too, and I even…

I have a BS in Computer Science and I can't do basic math reliably... 3+4? About 10. Is that something they teach in grad school?

10 is within the right amount of time complexity - someone else can correct me on the phrasing, I'm only an electrical engineer.

Re: HBO Max new Captcha system

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

sph wrote: post #46
naet wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is an old trick. For example all MailChimp embed forms have dummy inputs that are visually hidden but might be filled in by bots.

Maybe not visually hidden, but practically invisible to human: imagine a text box with color #fffffe on a white background. Visually impossible to discern for most humans on most screens, but for a machine #fffffe is totally distinct from #ffffff, and fully visible if display != none. As AI becomes more intelligent, you can prove humanity by exploiting our weaknesses. (Another idea. Have a random image on a page actu…

One pitfall: Screen readers will happily get caught on that. Of course, a11y concerns and bots tend to look similar in general, which is a perennial sticking point.

Re: HBO Max new Captcha system

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Post by PascLeRasc »

mdasen wrote: post #55
wrs wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am baffled as to why they had to launch an entirely new app rather than just rename the existing one. Could Apple have made them change the bundle ID? It's like they're putting in deliberate obstacles for existing subscribers.

Some it was probably "this gives us an excuse to rewrite the system, but better this time!" Rebranding often gives a certain amount of cover to do things you want to do even if you don't have to do it. Often new management wants to put their stamp on things. I've been in situations where we've had to do major redesigns because a new leader wanted to leave their mark. I've been in situations where each new leader want…

More like it was previously determined by someone who doesn't work there anymore that there would be a new app, and and no one is allowed to Deviate from the System Architecture Specification Trace Matrix.

Re: HBO Max new Captcha system

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Post by PascLeRasc »

nebula8804 wrote: post #48
wrs wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am baffled as to why they had to launch an entirely new app rather than just rename the existing one. Could Apple have made them change the bundle ID? It's like they're putting in deliberate obstacles for existing subscribers.

Elon Musk originally said this in an interview somewhere but it stuck with me: "The organizational inefficiencies and structure will manifest themselves in the end product." We can probably gleam many insights about the people who made the app (how it works, how big the bundle is, how fast/slow etc.). I haven't used the app so I can't make any judgements about the organization behind it.

I would have picked a different mission statement

Re: HBO Max new Captcha system

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Post by mateo- »

rglover wrote: post #63

I see stuff like this and immediately think "the team responsible, in its entirety, should be fired." Zero conscious thought occurred during the entire lifecycle of this feature being implemented.

guessing it's a "you get what you pay for" situation -- outsourcing or interns.

Re: HBO Max new Captcha system

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Post by fbdab103 »

ardit33 wrote: post #36

The HBO MAX (aka just MAX now) in PS4 is just a disaster. Can't play videos anymore, as it gets stuck on a infinite loop in the intro of every movie. It the remaining time is displayed as a negative integer, and for some reason the system just thinks the move is done and resets it to the beginning. Seems like a bug that some very basic QA testing should have caught it. The new rollout seems like a total clown show, a…

Both HBO and the Apple TV interfaces on Roku are shockingly poor. All sorts of glitches and annoyances with happy-path usage. It really feels like the designers are not using the product.

Re: HBO Max new Captcha system

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Post by theaiquestion »

sph wrote: post #44
ethanbond wrote: post #2

This is going to be one of the best parts of the new AI-ridden world: humans gradually getting locked out of and giving up on online services because the bots are more patient and more skilled at proving their humanness than humans are. Twitter’s new captchas are also pretty insane, though not quite this bad last I ran into them.

Serious question: who has a decent plan to create proof-of-human systems that are not only CAPTCHA based? We will soon need this, and I feel government will gladly present a solution: provide your ID when you connect to the Internet, and we will guarantee you are a human. Who's actually working on this and has released papers I can study? Because all this AI nonsense will only accelerate us towards this total control…

I'm not saying PGP or cryptocurrency because both of those have issues and the moment money is involved everything is foobar'd

But essentially allowing people to make "identities" via cryptography and then use a reputation system. Preferably by allowing people to follow/whitelist/favorite people across websites.

I like hacker new's method of making new people green. And I wish I could make it highlight the big names I recognize.

The problem with this is that nobody has figured out the distribution system for how we communicate the keys - IMO blockchains are the closest but it's so difficult to mention them because 98% of them are money-grabs. PGP/GPG has struggled so hard pypi literally removed support for it.

The second problem is that what will likely happen is sites like twitter will only allow very trusted accounts and never allow new ones - effectively locking you into one account.

Re: HBO Max new Captcha system

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Post by flangola7 »

ribosometronome wrote: post #69
sph wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Serious question: who has a decent plan to create proof-of-human systems that are not only CAPTCHA based? We will soon need this, and I feel government will gladly present a solution: provide your ID when you connect to the Internet, and we will guarantee you are a human. Who's actually working on this and has released papers I can study? Because all this AI nonsense will only accelerate us towards this total control…

>provide your ID when you connect to the Internet, and we will guarantee you are a human. Or an AI using a human's ID?

Hard to do that if the ID is tied to a hardware token and rate limited in silicon. For extra strength require biometrics to activate the token.
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