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Re: HBO Max new Captcha system

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Post by TechBro8615 »

sph wrote: post #44
ethanbond wrote: post #2

This is going to be one of the best parts of the new AI-ridden world: humans gradually getting locked out of and giving up on online services because the bots are more patient and more skilled at proving their humanness than humans are. Twitter’s new captchas are also pretty insane, though not quite this bad last I ran into them.

Serious question: who has a decent plan to create proof-of-human systems that are not only CAPTCHA based? We will soon need this, and I feel government will gladly present a solution: provide your ID when you connect to the Internet, and we will guarantee you are a human. Who's actually working on this and has released papers I can study? Because all this AI nonsense will only accelerate us towards this total control…

I'm pretty sure this was (is?) the idea behind Sam Altman's creepy "World Coin" which IIRC basically involves stamping your retina on a federated blockchain with Microsoft controlling the supernodes.

Re: HBO Max new Captcha system

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Post by ec109685 »

jacurtis wrote: post #9

I experienced the HBO Max captchas just a few days ago. Everyone did since they launched a new app and made everyone switch to that and re-login. Some of the solutions are clearly just wrong. I have a PhD in Computer Science and if I am failing multiple basic addition problems, I assure you that it isn't me, the answers are wrong. I had to do the same audio puzzles and got the first audio puzzle wrong too, and I even…

All the best captchas seem impossible but really aren’t.

The hiding the dice under the arrow though is ridiculous.

Re: HBO Max new Captcha system

#93

Post by rendaw »

jacurtis wrote: post #9

I experienced the HBO Max captchas just a few days ago. Everyone did since they launched a new app and made everyone switch to that and re-login. Some of the solutions are clearly just wrong. I have a PhD in Computer Science and if I am failing multiple basic addition problems, I assure you that it isn't me, the answers are wrong. I had to do the same audio puzzles and got the first audio puzzle wrong too, and I even…

I have a BS in Computer Science and I can't do basic math reliably... 3+4? About 10. Is that something they teach in grad school?

Re: HBO Max new Captcha system

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Post by doodlesdev »

“Piracy is a service problem.” - Gabe Newell

Also, Arkose Labs CAPTCHA (what HBO Max is using) is awful, please don't use it. There's reCAPTCHA, hCAPTCHA, mCAPTCHA, and now even Cloudflare Turnstile. Or better yet, recognize your costumers can still download the movie for free whether your service exists or not and adapt your strategy to provide them with content easier :)

Re: HBO Max new Captcha system

#95

Post by cheese_van »

ardit33 wrote: post #36

The HBO MAX (aka just MAX now) in PS4 is just a disaster. Can't play videos anymore, as it gets stuck on a infinite loop in the intro of every movie. It the remaining time is displayed as a negative integer, and for some reason the system just thinks the move is done and resets it to the beginning. Seems like a bug that some very basic QA testing should have caught it. The new rollout seems like a total clown show, a…

Nor was I able to log in with Firefox w/linux. I suppose I could have used Chrome but the failure gave me an excuse just to end my subscription. I honestly didn't view HBO that much so I guess I'm up a few bucks. But it does occur to me that a failed first impression can result in lost business - like me. So if users are sitting on the fence, don't push them off! I suppose is the moral.

Re: HBO Max new Captcha system

#96

Post by gareve »

rendaw wrote: post #93
jacurtis wrote: post #9

I experienced the HBO Max captchas just a few days ago. Everyone did since they launched a new app and made everyone switch to that and re-login. Some of the solutions are clearly just wrong. I have a PhD in Computer Science and if I am failing multiple basic addition problems, I assure you that it isn't me, the answers are wrong. I had to do the same audio puzzles and got the first audio puzzle wrong too, and I even…

I have a BS in Computer Science and I can't do basic math reliably... 3+4? About 10. Is that something they teach in grad school?

I trust more the BS here than the Phd from above

Re: HBO Max new Captcha system

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Post by philistine »

sph wrote: post #44
ethanbond wrote: post #2

This is going to be one of the best parts of the new AI-ridden world: humans gradually getting locked out of and giving up on online services because the bots are more patient and more skilled at proving their humanness than humans are. Twitter’s new captchas are also pretty insane, though not quite this bad last I ran into them.

Serious question: who has a decent plan to create proof-of-human systems that are not only CAPTCHA based? We will soon need this, and I feel government will gladly present a solution: provide your ID when you connect to the Internet, and we will guarantee you are a human. Who's actually working on this and has released papers I can study? Because all this AI nonsense will only accelerate us towards this total control…

The best attempt at solving the problem without providing government ID is Apple's system to get is of CAPTCHAs:

https://techcrunch.com/2022/06/21/apple-is-introducing-new-t...

Re: HBO Max new Captcha system

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Post by plorkyeran »

valine wrote: post #47
paulgb wrote: post #20

So the audio captcha was just two one-of-three challenges? How does this slow an automated bot down, it could just guess repeatedly and get it right 1/9th of the time.

I’m also fairly certain an FFT of the audio would instantly uncover the repeating patterns. The repeating tones would show up as taller spikes.

Yeah, that seems like something which is easier for a bot than a human.

Re: HBO Max new Captcha system

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Post by cletusw »

sph wrote: post #46
naet wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is an old trick. For example all MailChimp embed forms have dummy inputs that are visually hidden but might be filled in by bots.

Maybe not visually hidden, but practically invisible to human: imagine a text box with color #fffffe on a white background. Visually impossible to discern for most humans on most screens, but for a machine #fffffe is totally distinct from #ffffff, and fully visible if display != none. As AI becomes more intelligent, you can prove humanity by exploiting our weaknesses. (Another idea. Have a random image on a page actu…

Please don't do this. This confuses and possibly prevents screen reader users from using your site.

Re: HBO Max new Captcha system

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Post by mplewis »

sph wrote: post #44
ethanbond wrote: post #2

This is going to be one of the best parts of the new AI-ridden world: humans gradually getting locked out of and giving up on online services because the bots are more patient and more skilled at proving their humanness than humans are. Twitter’s new captchas are also pretty insane, though not quite this bad last I ran into them.

Serious question: who has a decent plan to create proof-of-human systems that are not only CAPTCHA based? We will soon need this, and I feel government will gladly present a solution: provide your ID when you connect to the Internet, and we will guarantee you are a human. Who's actually working on this and has released papers I can study? Because all this AI nonsense will only accelerate us towards this total control…

The only people who really can solve this problem are the government.
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