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Re: Rheinmetall pilot project for curb stone chargers for EVs

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Post by NoRelToEmber »

kleiba wrote: post #69
newaccount74 wrote: post #55

On the one hand, I think that ICE cars should be banned from cities, the air would be much better, and these curbside chargers look like it could help with that. On the other hand, a city filled with parked EV cars is not very different from a city filled with ICE cars. Curbside parking should be abolished or at least significantly reduced. People should just park in underground garages and walk the remaining 200m, t…

Cologne is a city with roots that reach back to the Roman empire. It has grown and developed over hundreds of years. Where would all these underground parking lots come from? Why not go a step further and demand that all roads should be put underground, too, so that pedestrians can enjoy an idle stroll on green meadors above ground without all the annoyances that come from car traffic?

> Why not go a step further and demand that all roads should be put underground

Like a subway. Throw in some bicycles or e-scooters for the last ~200 meters.

Re: Rheinmetall pilot project for curb stone chargers for EVs

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Post by usrusr »

chroma wrote: post #62
izacus wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most US working charging infrastructure is Tesla plugs. Tesla also started pushing companies like Ford to adopt their proprietary charger.

It's no longer proprietary. As of last year the standard is open and anyone can adopt it without paying Tesla a dime.[1] Of course car manufacturers will have to negotiate access to Tesla's charging network, but that's also true of Electrify America. Considering the advantages of Tesla's connector (much more compact, much more popular than CCS in the US), I hope it wins. Now that Ford[2] and Aptera[3] are adopting it…

Considering the Tesla patents pledge of 2014, I find it hardly surprising that manufacturers don't immediately jump at "open since 2022".

Re: Rheinmetall pilot project for curb stone chargers for EVs

#93

Post by r00fus »

m4rtink wrote: post #50
rektide wrote: post #5

Chargers that pop out of the curb. Yes please. Here in DC we have a lot of food trucks, and their fumes and noise is a sad mark upon the area. I dream of a law where these things could be connected to the grid instead. Right now that's just a fantasy as there's not a real way to accomplish that objective, but tech like this is exactly what it would take! And more inverters setup to be powered off EV voltage levels.

Likey really ? They just have an engine running, not even an external generator ? Around here in the Czech Republic they hook up to the grid (they often have regular spots they visit, so often arrange a connection to be available) or cook on gas from gas bombs anyway, so don't really need electricity when cooking.

> cook on gas from gas bombs anyway

Ok… either this was a typo or I don’t understand what a gas bomb is.

Re: Rheinmetall pilot project for curb stone chargers for EVs

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Post by ajsnigrutin »

It's just a plug... in the ground.. well, in a curb... Why is this innovative?!

I was expecting some kind of automatic system, where you just park near it and it charges automatically... like an indentiation where you stop your rear tires in, and an automatic system takes over and plugs the car in as you leave.

Re: Rheinmetall pilot project for curb stone chargers for EVs

#95

Post by mc32 »

kleiba wrote: post #69
newaccount74 wrote: post #55

On the one hand, I think that ICE cars should be banned from cities, the air would be much better, and these curbside chargers look like it could help with that. On the other hand, a city filled with parked EV cars is not very different from a city filled with ICE cars. Curbside parking should be abolished or at least significantly reduced. People should just park in underground garages and walk the remaining 200m, t…

Cologne is a city with roots that reach back to the Roman empire. It has grown and developed over hundreds of years. Where would all these underground parking lots come from? Why not go a step further and demand that all roads should be put underground, too, so that pedestrians can enjoy an idle stroll on green meadors above ground without all the annoyances that come from car traffic?

Meadows and pastures are for pedestrians only! No mechanized devices of any kind. Only exception would be crutches and unpowered wheelchairs for those who are disabled!

Re: Rheinmetall pilot project for curb stone chargers for EVs

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Post by KennyBlanken »

m4rtink wrote: post #50
rektide wrote: post #5

Chargers that pop out of the curb. Yes please. Here in DC we have a lot of food trucks, and their fumes and noise is a sad mark upon the area. I dream of a law where these things could be connected to the grid instead. Right now that's just a fantasy as there's not a real way to accomplish that objective, but tech like this is exactly what it would take! And more inverters setup to be powered off EV voltage levels.

Likey really ? They just have an engine running, not even an external generator ? Around here in the Czech Republic they hook up to the grid (they often have regular spots they visit, so often arrange a connection to be available) or cook on gas from gas bombs anyway, so don't really need electricity when cooking.

Most US food trucks have a generator unless they're operating in a location that is planning to accommodate them (I've been to several where the host business provided some circuits.) The quiet generators are pretty expensive, if you want one that lasts.

That said, OP's "I don't like noise and smelly stuff, it's ruining my city" is laughable.

Re: Rheinmetall pilot project for curb stone chargers for EVs

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Post by zx8080 »

kleiba wrote: post #69
newaccount74 wrote: post #55

On the one hand, I think that ICE cars should be banned from cities, the air would be much better, and these curbside chargers look like it could help with that. On the other hand, a city filled with parked EV cars is not very different from a city filled with ICE cars. Curbside parking should be abolished or at least significantly reduced. People should just park in underground garages and walk the remaining 200m, t…

Cologne is a city with roots that reach back to the Roman empire. It has grown and developed over hundreds of years. Where would all these underground parking lots come from? Why not go a step further and demand that all roads should be put underground, too, so that pedestrians can enjoy an idle stroll on green meadors above ground without all the annoyances that come from car traffic?

> demand that all roads should be put underground

That's called subway.

Re: Rheinmetall pilot project for curb stone chargers for EVs

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Post by zx8080 »

wongarsu wrote: post #19
joot82 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hydrants, lamps, bicycles, tires, ... anything that looks different from a standard curb. Not sure if doggy will be attracted by the cover when in ground, but by a nice oversized plug sticking out for sure.

People will shame dog owners who allow their dogs to pee or poop on chargers. Which won't completely eliminate the problem, but should limit it. Not sure that would work in the US though.

In the US they will be cancelled.

/s

Re: Rheinmetall pilot project for curb stone chargers for EVs

#99

Post by KennyBlanken »

Robotbeat wrote: post #64
rsynnott wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Eh? Pretty much all US electric cars these days have CCS charger ports, don't they?

No, most US electric cars are Teslas and they use the better NACS port. Which is an open standard now. Ford will use it in the future.

There's nothing better about Supercharger connectors.

CCS is now twice the voltage and supports 25% more current; the common max CCS charger power is 350KW, whereas most superchargers are at best 250KW, and often that power is shared among several stalls.

Teslas use CCS2 in Europe where (ahem) they were required to, so by opening up their network, millions of cars there are out there able to use the stations since it's largely a software change.

No mass-produced car uses Supercharger plugs except Teslas, so them opening up their network means only some Fords, produced at some time in the future, will be able to use them - and it's really not a plus, given the slow charging speed, and how oversubscribed many of the stations are. It's going to be fun when people with 100k Teslas can't charge because there's someone with a $35k electric Ford using a charging port...

The entire mass-production auto industry save Tesla has standardized on CCS1/2. The only downside to CCS is that the US and Europe use different CCS connectors, which is a giant facepalm.

Re: Rheinmetall pilot project for curb stone chargers for EVs

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Post by RetroHippyNimby »

I worry we're replacing polluting ICE cars with just as many, polluting EVs. EVs pollute less than cars, but they produce a lot more tire dust and road wear, since those things scale exponentially with the weight of the vehicle.

Tire dust has been shown to damage salmon populations and disrupt endocrine systems.

Yes, improving infra for EVs is an incremental improvement, but we are decades too late for iterative improvements, we need to take more radical action.

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