This sort of stuff is the natural consequence of the verifiability over truth approach Wikipedia has foolishly embraced.
Wikipedia had wrong Vatican flag for years – now incorrect flags are everywhere
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Re: Wikipedia had wrong Vatican flag for years – now incorrect flags are everywhere
#92I’m really surprised that Father Becker thinks this is a meaningful difference. I’m as detail-oriented as it gets, but symbols on flags and coats of arms are a notoriously hard thing to get “right” and I’m not sure they should. Noble houses had lions, dolphins, elephants, and unicorns on their coat of arms at a time when people (bored monks who never left their monastery) drew them like a confused alcoholic toddler,…
> There’s a rumour that the carpet has another version: one where the Eagle looks right, towards the arrows, and that the carpet can be switched if the country is at war. I like that idea. In recent decades every president get’s his own rug with his own design [1]. It’s even more amusing, if you imagine a storehouse somewhere with the unused “wars rugs” of past presidents. [1] https://www.ahs.com/home-matters/resourc…
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Re: Wikipedia had wrong Vatican flag for years – now incorrect flags are everywhere
#93I’m really surprised that Father Becker thinks this is a meaningful difference. I’m as detail-oriented as it gets, but symbols on flags and coats of arms are a notoriously hard thing to get “right” and I’m not sure they should. Noble houses had lions, dolphins, elephants, and unicorns on their coat of arms at a time when people (bored monks who never left their monastery) drew them like a confused alcoholic toddler,…
> the carpet can be switched if the country is at war
"There is a temple to him in Rome, which has two doors, and which they call the gate of war. It is the custom to open the temple in time of war, and to close it during peace. This scarcely ever took place, as the empire was almost always at war with some state."
- Parallel Lives
Re: Wikipedia had wrong Vatican flag for years – now incorrect flags are everywhere
#94Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maybe the Olympics have done worse but your link isn’t Olympic-related.
Oh, damn. I Googled for Olympics wrong anthem and that came up. It's a meta-screw up. Apt.
Next Bard will read the comment, repeat it as fact, and it will make it into the history books.
Re: Wikipedia had wrong Vatican flag for years – now incorrect flags are everywhere
#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
> but it looks like it's something like "banner divided in yellow (towards the flagpole) and white https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Vatican_City says “A vertical bicolour of gold and white” . I would have thought that should be gold and silver ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tincture_(heraldry) ), but ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tincture_(heraldry)#Other_tinc... ) “The heraldic scholar A. C. Fox-Davies propo…
> “The heraldic scholar A. C. Fox-Davies proposed that, in some circumstances, white should be considered a heraldic colour, distinct from argent” I took a look, just because Fox-Davies can be absurdly and amusingly pedantic about that stuff: He only postulates White as tincture for labels of cadency – as in the CoA of the Prince of Wales. The idea is to difference it from argent. The supporters of the PoW’s CoA are…
I love this kind of obscure scholarship, thank you!
Re: Wikipedia had wrong Vatican flag for years – now incorrect flags are everywhere
#96This feels like the author jumped to the conclusion that Wikipedia was at fault because it's a common enough story and sounded good, but it doesn't add up. See addaon's comment for an explanation of why heraldry here isn't as cut-and-dry as we're used to for, say, the US flag. But even aside from that, the author neglected to check the full edit history on the Wikipedia file: the very first version of the flag (25 No…
> It's hard to imagine the flag flown at the UN being done as a rush job from a Wikipedia article.
After working years for a famous international company where anyone from the outside would imagine incredible efficiency, precision, mastery, etc., it is really not hard AT ALL to believe.
Re: Wikipedia had wrong Vatican flag for years – now incorrect flags are everywhere
#97Just highlighting this twitter thread where people are finding all sorts of pre-wikipedia examples of Vatican flag, like this one from 1970: https://twitter.com/VinSlashLopez/status/1639478301885599745... So its obviously not just wikipedias invention, but a wider phenomenon.
Or one could read The Signpost.
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2...
Re: Wikipedia had wrong Vatican flag for years – now incorrect flags are everywhere
#98I was expecting a much bigger difference in flags :/
But I do live in slovenia, and everyone mistakes us for slovakia anyways, and that includes our flags.
Re: Wikipedia had wrong Vatican flag for years – now incorrect flags are everywhere
#99Earlier quoted context omitted.
While widely used symbols like “eagle displayed” or “lion passant guardant” are really well defined, the more you get to the esoteric stuff the more you find there are really no standards. Try “importing” such thing as “octopus proper”. Heraldically speaking, it really makes no difference, as nobody would mistake the “wrong” flag of Vatican to represent some completely different entity. But TLA is not implying that —…
> nobody would mistake the “wrong” flag of Vatican to represent some completely different entity Compare that to Australia and New Zealand. If you don't know what do look for and aren't aware the other's out there, you could easily mix them up.
Playing "Legion TD2" had been great for my recognition of national flags.
Every game I see up to 3 other flags for the other players, and the country name is shown on mouse-over.
It even taught me of the existence a country I'd never heard of before.
Re: Wikipedia had wrong Vatican flag for years – now incorrect flags are everywhere
#100the distributed asynchronous nature of information is fascinating