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Re: Rheinmetall pilot project for curb stone chargers for EVs

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Post by tomtheelder »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #56

I think this is cool, but as the owner of a (non-Tesla) EV, I'd just be glad for chargers that usually work . People ask me sometimes if I have "range anxiety" - I don't really have range anxiety so much as charger anxiety. When I'm not at home my options are pretty much Chargepoint chargers, and there is an Electrify America DC fast charging station about 20 mins away. I'd say about 50% of the time the Chargepoint s…

I live in a high EV density region and it’s already a complete non issue. We have a good number of providers around here, and they are all mostly extremely reliable. Most of the time when I go to charge it will be a bank of 6+ chargers. Occasionally one isn’t working, but that’s not much different from a gas pump being out of service. Worst case I can always drive down the street to another bank.

Like a lot of stuff with EVs, it’s just a question of demand reaching a certain level- which it will- before the services really hit their stride. It’s already happened in a good few places, and it will happen where you live in time.

Re: Rheinmetall pilot project for curb stone chargers for EVs

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Post by chroma »

izacus wrote: post #26
rsynnott wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Eh? Pretty much all US electric cars these days have CCS charger ports, don't they?

Most US working charging infrastructure is Tesla plugs. Tesla also started pushing companies like Ford to adopt their proprietary charger.

It's no longer proprietary. As of last year the standard is open and anyone can adopt it without paying Tesla a dime.[1] Of course car manufacturers will have to negotiate access to Tesla's charging network, but that's also true of Electrify America. Considering the advantages of Tesla's connector (much more compact, much more popular than CCS in the US), I hope it wins. Now that Ford[2] and Aptera[3] are adopting it, I think it will.

1. https://www.tesla.com/blog/opening-north-american-charging-s...

2. https://media.ford.com/content/fordmedia/fna/us/en/news/2023...

3. https://aptera.us/tesla-charging/

Re: Rheinmetall pilot project for curb stone chargers for EVs

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izacus wrote: post #26
rsynnott wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Eh? Pretty much all US electric cars these days have CCS charger ports, don't they?

Most US working charging infrastructure is Tesla plugs. Tesla also started pushing companies like Ford to adopt their proprietary charger.

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Re: Rheinmetall pilot project for curb stone chargers for EVs

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Post by Robotbeat »

rsynnott wrote: post #11
izacus wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since US failed to standardize chargers, Tesla will decide whether anyone is allowed to build such infrastructure. Will they allow it?

Eh? Pretty much all US electric cars these days have CCS charger ports, don't they?

No, most US electric cars are Teslas and they use the better NACS port. Which is an open standard now. Ford will use it in the future.

Re: Rheinmetall pilot project for curb stone chargers for EVs

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Post by Robotbeat »

rsynnott wrote: post #38
wmf wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not any more. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36079236

Looks like their current electric vehicles use CCS; I'd imagine the future ones would probably have _both_, or some sort of adaptor.

That’s correct, there will be an adapter & there already is

Re: Rheinmetall pilot project for curb stone chargers for EVs

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Post by Robotbeat »

hgomersall wrote: post #46
balderdash wrote: post #43

What are the core “limitations” of a charging pole? Is it aesthetics? Being able to drive over it? These look neat, but I’m a little vague as to the problem that is being solved?

Having the pavement obstructed by charging infrastructure. It's already hard enough in many places to navigate on foot (and even more so with a wheelchair or pushchair) without having additional obstacles to contend with.

I actually think that could be a good thing. EV chargers as bollards to protect pedestrian pathways.

Re: Rheinmetall pilot project for curb stone chargers for EVs

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Post by kleiba »

newaccount74 wrote: post #55

On the one hand, I think that ICE cars should be banned from cities, the air would be much better, and these curbside chargers look like it could help with that. On the other hand, a city filled with parked EV cars is not very different from a city filled with ICE cars. Curbside parking should be abolished or at least significantly reduced. People should just park in underground garages and walk the remaining 200m, t…

Cologne is a city with roots that reach back to the Roman empire. It has grown and developed over hundreds of years. Where would all these underground parking lots come from?

Why not go a step further and demand that all roads should be put underground, too, so that pedestrians can enjoy an idle stroll on green meadors above ground without all the annoyances that come from car traffic?

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