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Re: Show HN: devsigh.com - post all your stories of developer sigh

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Post by mangala » Mon, Feb 20, 2012, 1:57 AM UTC

guard-of-terra wrote: post #27

bmalee wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Firstly, ranting online and confronting the problem directly are not actually mutually exclusive. Secondly, in the real world sometimes a problem just isn't worth addressing; no matter how hard you try, sales/marketing/your manager/the CEO/the users just won't understand, so just work around it and let off steam online instead.

The level of helplessness in those rants suggest they are. In the real world you are THE responsive professional, and you tell people that the important thing is going to be wrong, politely but repeatedly, and they actually listen to you. And when you repeat it in simple words long enough, they eventually would understand. That's how it works. Or at least you land on better terms so you don't have to make a deal with…

The lady doth protests too much, methinks.

Re: Show HN: devsigh.com - post all your stories of developer sigh

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Post by mangala » Mon, Feb 20, 2012, 2:01 AM UTC

chargrilled wrote: post #2

Hi everyone. I built this over the course of the last week as an exercise in learning Django. I noticed my friends and I tended to share lots of stories about our work-related development woe on IRC and thought it would be good to create a place to share the stories! Let me know if you've got any feedback.

This is my new favorite site. Thank you.

Re: Show HN: devsigh.com - post all your stories of developer sigh

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Post by jowiar » Mon, Feb 20, 2012, 5:01 AM UTC

chargrilled wrote: post #2

Hi everyone. I built this over the course of the last week as an exercise in learning Django. I noticed my friends and I tended to share lots of stories about our work-related development woe on IRC and thought it would be good to create a place to share the stories! Let me know if you've got any feedback.

(1) Add job listings to submission page

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Re: Show HN: devsigh.com - post all your stories of developer sigh

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Post by guard-of-terra » Mon, Feb 20, 2012, 7:06 AM UTC

warfangle wrote: post #29

bmalee wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the real world, some battles are not worth fighting. Telling people that your way is correct, over and over again, doesn't necessarily mean that they'll learn, and even if you're right it doesn't necessarily win you any friends (even among people who agree with you). Sometimes you have to pick your battles and work around the incompetence, laziness, and sheer malice of others, and then vent a little to your friend…

In fact, it can bite you in the ass when it comes review time - people review you as an obstruction to getting things done. Note, this isn't always true; when it is, it's a good sign that you shouldn't be working for the company. But in some geographic areas, even IT/Dev positions are hard to come by. I have a friend who runs into these kinds of problems all the time. Complains incessently about them, how he hates IT…

"His excuse for not finding an amazing company?" I think the main reason for not finding an amazing company is the same as one which prevents him from standing up thus making his life (and, in fact, lives of everyone around) better.

I guess the same people who work at nice jobs where they make a difference would continue to make so elsewhere and this in fact is what let them where they're now.

Re: Show HN: devsigh.com - post all your stories of developer sigh

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Post by guard-of-terra » Mon, Feb 20, 2012, 7:10 AM UTC

bmalee wrote: post #28

guard-of-terra wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The level of helplessness in those rants suggest they are. In the real world you are THE responsive professional, and you tell people that the important thing is going to be wrong, politely but repeatedly, and they actually listen to you. And when you repeat it in simple words long enough, they eventually would understand. That's how it works. Or at least you land on better terms so you don't have to make a deal with…

In the real world, some battles are not worth fighting. Telling people that your way is correct, over and over again, doesn't necessarily mean that they'll learn, and even if you're right it doesn't necessarily win you any friends (even among people who agree with you). Sometimes you have to pick your battles and work around the incompetence, laziness, and sheer malice of others, and then vent a little to your friend…

Some aren't (some questions are purely subjective even if you have a strong opinion; other are annoying but not very important); but some are. If you agree to some idiotic measure it's in fact you who would be blamed for consequences (together with your colleagues who might have nothing to do with it at all): overspending, missing deadlines and underwhelming result.

Re: Show HN: devsigh.com - post all your stories of developer sigh

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Post by derrida » Mon, Feb 20, 2012, 12:34 PM UTC

jowiar wrote: post #33

chargrilled wrote: post #2

Hi everyone. I built this over the course of the last week as an exercise in learning Django. I noticed my friends and I tended to share lots of stories about our work-related development woe on IRC and thought it would be good to create a place to share the stories! Let me know if you've got any feedback.

(1) Add job listings to submission page (2) $

This will work.