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Re: India ruling party's IT cell used AI to show smile on arrested protesters' faces

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Need a source on RSA 2048 being breakable. QC like that is still quite far off and it can’t be conventionally breakable unless there has been some kind of mathematical breakthrough.

https://www.fujitsu.com/global/about/resources/news/press-re...

We're good! It's a risk assessment - nothing has been broken, but they propose that with a computer with these specs it could be done.

I wouldn't worry too much about encryption being easily broken soon.

Re: India ruling party's IT cell used AI to show smile on arrested protesters' faces

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> Verified account @wokeflix_ tweeted the same image in a meme > Verified account @randomsena tweeted the same image > Another verified account, @RealAtulsay, tweeted the same image Isn't "Verified" on Twitter just a subscription now, meaning it's just that these people have given Twitter money? Why it matters (in a journalistic sense) who has paid Twitter or not? And why are only some of the verified accounts mentio…

"Verified" is now an anti-signal. It's more likely than not to indicate that the poster is a crank who's paying money to have their opinions disseminated.

I would agree with this, except verified account posts still get shown first.

Re: India ruling party's IT cell used AI to show smile on arrested protesters' faces

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I'm not sure what you're arguing here?

I suspect they’re referring to using blockchain as a system of cryptographically-verified facts and shared reality to counteract the AI risk you mention.

Why was GP flagged? They made a good point.

Re: India ruling party's IT cell used AI to show smile on arrested protesters' faces

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That is getting real freaking dystopian. Sure, we would have been able to do this before, and the Soviet Union did a ton of photo editing. But doing this particular edit must have been so easy. No cost at all, no mental barrier. You would almost think 'why bother'. And before anyone says 'yeah, but the truth came out'. Well, we saw it, but how many of the particular audience of whatever that outlet was will never see…

I am hoping that AI tooling like this becomes even more widespread (Google Photos is doing that) that more people will finally understand that they cannot trust everything they see online. I hope.

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That is what a lot of us think the real threat of "AI" is: not that it will autonomously produce bad outcomes for humanity, but because it's a tool that's indifferent to truth or falsehood it allows any kind of truth or reality based politics to be totally flooded out of the public sphere. Everyone ends up fighting in the hall of mirrors.

Yeah. The postmodernists (as I understand them) have been talking about "post truth" and "claims of truth are just assertions of power". And I've always thought that their position was insane. Now they look more like prophets. That world is increasingly the world we live in. The question becomes, how can we stay sane in that world? How can we find enough actual truth (truth that is actually true , true in the old sen…

Disconnect and build a network of trust.

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> yeah, but the truth came out The truth came out this time. To borrow from Ozark: this isn't the only time they doctored photos, it's the only time they got caught.

And those having seen the doctored images wont know (or care) that they were fake.

Exactly. Even when a major TV channels was busting fake news in my country, people just switched to other govt-sponsored (bribed?) channel to hear what they wanted to hear. It became a common meme to say that major TV channel has an agenda (and either silence or whataboustism ensues once people are questioned about the actual fake news).

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"Verified" is now an anti-signal. It's more likely than not to indicate that the poster is a crank who's paying money to have their opinions disseminated.

I would agree with this, except verified account posts still get shown first.

So cranks and people trying to promote something.

Re: India ruling party's IT cell used AI to show smile on arrested protesters' faces

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> Verified account @wokeflix_ tweeted the same image in a meme > Verified account @randomsena tweeted the same image > Another verified account, @RealAtulsay, tweeted the same image Isn't "Verified" on Twitter just a subscription now, meaning it's just that these people have given Twitter money? Why it matters (in a journalistic sense) who has paid Twitter or not? And why are only some of the verified accounts mentio…

Well let’s see what Twitter says about their new blue program Your account must have no signs of being misleading or deceptive Your account must have no signs of engaging in platform manipulation and spam So Twitter is telling us that those accounts should not be deceiving. Yet, they are. https://help.twitter.com/en/managing-your-account/about-twit...

Sounds more like regular ToS that gives Twitter the right to cancel paid services, not a magic method to fix the issue. I know a ton of verified politicians that lied weekly on Twitter pre Musk. It's an unsolvable issue.

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Yeah. The postmodernists (as I understand them) have been talking about "post truth" and "claims of truth are just assertions of power". And I've always thought that their position was insane. Now they look more like prophets. That world is increasingly the world we live in. The question becomes, how can we stay sane in that world? How can we find enough actual truth (truth that is actually true , true in the old sen…

Disconnect and build a network of trust.

Or build walled gardens inside the connected world. Dunbar's number, right?

Re: India ruling party's IT cell used AI to show smile on arrested protesters' faces

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What's with India and the shift towards the right? I thought it had too many religions and different cultures to pull this off.

BJP in India does not fight elections based on any development agendas like education/healthcare or social security.

They pretends to the majority Hindu public that "Hindus are in danger from Muslims" and only BJP can protect them. They also project themselves as true nationalists and anyone having anti-government views is declared a "Pakistani" or anti-national.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/4/7/spike-in-anti-muslim...

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