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Everyone in the Netherlands is using fluorided toothpaste and brushes twice a day, cavities are really low.
Good thing I left NL or I would have invalidated your statement! Actually, I don't know anyone who brushes twice daily.
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> Now is it still necessary? An experiment in Windsor, Ontario (across the border from Detroit, MI): > Yemmi Calito's children are patients of Dr. Meriano. The two oldest kids were raised on fluoridated water in Windsor and both have healthy teeth. Her two youngest weren't, and they've had to be treated for serious tooth decay. Calito said their oral hygiene habits are the same. > "The younger two I feel they have mo…
Hot take: why don’t we stop the root cause of the problem, instead of the insestuous habit of layering on symptom management on top of symptom management. Stop giving kids these insanely high levels of sugar. No soda is a great start. Same thorn in my side is this completely crazy trend that this new life-long injection Ozempic/Wegovy is being suggested for kids 12 and up. Like what? It also atrophies muscle, tendons…
Super simple answer: one requires everyone change their individual habits. Difficulty - very hard. The other requires no change at all on the individual level. Difficulty - very easy.
Be careful with falling into the "public health initiatives are just a bandaid" trap. I was going to say you probably wouldn't approach a pandemic by telling everyone to eat more healthfully but considering your last sentence, maybe you would have argued for that approach.
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No, fluoride must not be added to any food or beverage, because it provides no benefits whatsoever when ingested. Fluoride is beneficial only when applied externally on the dental enamel, so that the fluoride ions will passively substitute the hydroxide ions. There is no known biological process that uses actively fluoride in the human body and excessive ingested fluoride has bad effects, e.g. bone damage. Therefore…
Well it halved childhood cavities in the 50s. It did its job and I don’t think it’s hard to understand why it was done. Same reason why they stared iodine to salt… because people were having mental development issues. Now is it still necessary? That’s a different question but let’s not pretend that we don’t know why it was done.
What I heard (but did not verify) was that cavities reduced similarly in countries that did not have fluoride in the water around the same time.
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People love treating symptoms because humans are notoriously shortsighted
Not to mention there's a lot of money behind the real causes
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We don’t fluoridate our water but from 12-18 we do “fluor happen” (loosely translated: “fluor biting”), where we are given an upper and a lower bit which are both filled with heavily fluoridated gel, you bite into it and after a couple of minutes you take the bits out, rinse your mouth and then spit out any left-overs.
That’s interesting. Hadn’t heard of that. How common is this practice?
But the practice was later abandoned, as it seems that the 6-8 age is the worst one to supplement (too much) fluoride, that could later develop in dental fluorosis:
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They give that to babies in France... I have swallowed my fair share of fluoride pills. Are you to tell me that I should have been a galaxy brain but am now a smooth brain? Fvck!
Wow WTF I've found french baby products to be quite nice but somehow child birth it's a weird industry there. I remember there was heavy lobbying to increase people's wishes for c sections there.
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Obviously a little fluoride will be ingested. However it is doubtful that this would increase much the total amount of fluoride that is ingested daily, mainly from the plants that you eat and from the natural water that you drink. When you brush your teeth with fluoridated paste or you wash your mouth with a fluoride solution and you spit it, most of the fluoride acts against the tooth enamel to harden it and only a…
> which will provide no further benefits Source please.
Or even just a theoretical reason to think it could be beneficial. All I’ve ever heard is that the benefit is in tooth contact.
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No, fluoride must not be added to any food or beverage, because it provides no benefits whatsoever when ingested. Fluoride is beneficial only when applied externally on the dental enamel, so that the fluoride ions will passively substitute the hydroxide ions. There is no known biological process that uses actively fluoride in the human body and excessive ingested fluoride has bad effects, e.g. bone damage. Therefore…
>it is beyond my power of understanding how this could be mandated by law in USA Consider that fluoride ingestion has been linked with increased anxiety and depression[*]. Depending upon one's political objectives, this could be a desirable outcome. For instance, the "anti-terror" decades of invasion would be easier to accept for an anxious public. Or depression may lead to more consumer activity. https://www.researc…
Moreover, as someone else pointed out, watching commercial airliners fly into skyscrapers and having our world upended with military guards at airports and new governmental snooping powers that we just had to accept is all pretty much enough for the things you mentioned.
1: https://news.gallup.com/poll/102943/republicans-report-much-...