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No, that's mainly lack of single consumer market, and the markets being too small to meaningfully start B2C companies.

You mean like Spotify, that started in the large and populous country of Sweden?

Spotify started from the start as a global company and had US VC money. That's however the exception from the rule.

Re: Europe data salary benchmark 2023

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We are getting absolutely fleeced by our American counterparts and paying higher taxes on top. Yet we're every bit as good developers, DevOps Engineers, SREs, you name it in tech. And cost of living in US metro areas vs Europe does not even begin to explain why. I wish we'd collectively take a harder stance on the bargaining line because it is insane to me we be paid half, a third less and then shell out very high ta…

You can earn close to the average American techie in the EU, either by getting one of the better jobs here or working remotely for US/Canadian companies. Both of those options get you in $150K base range, which is what most roles in the US offer. Getting $250K is also attainable if you freelance, which is better than 90% of companies in the US pay.

Which European companies in which countries pay 250k for freelancers? I've never seen anything like that in my area.

Top I saw was about 170k a year but then you gotta pay taxes on that, pay for healthcare and pension contributions out of pocket, account and budget for vacation days and sick leave and the 170k become much much less in take home pay.

Re: Europe data salary benchmark 2023

#83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can earn close to the average American techie in the EU, either by getting one of the better jobs here or working remotely for US/Canadian companies. Both of those options get you in $150K base range, which is what most roles in the US offer. Getting $250K is also attainable if you freelance, which is better than 90% of companies in the US pay.

Which European companies in which countries pay 250k for freelancers? I've never seen anything like that in my area. Top I saw was about 170k a year but then you gotta pay taxes on that, pay for healthcare and pension contributions out of pocket, account and budget for vacation days and sick leave and the 170k become much much less in take home pay.

This is in the Netherlands. $250K with 4 weeks vacation at 40 hours/week is about 120 EUR / hour, which is slightly above average somewhere like a bank.

Healthcare is only about €1300 / year. You can choose to build a pension, but you save on taxes compared to regular employees and can deduct things like business internet and electronics, so it's pretty close to the same in a regular salary.

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