Earlier quoted context omitted.
I found a simple workaround too — not buying HP printers. Nor other HP products.
That’s the “correct” direct action of course. However, other printer brands are ever hard at work to copy HP’s advances . So when buying a printer, make sure to research in depth.
HP printers should have EPEAT ecolabels revoked, trade group demands
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Re: HP printers should have EPEAT ecolabels revoked, trade group demands
#22Get an Epson EcoTank printer. Ink for those is available in *bottles* from Epson, it's dirt cheap. No more cartridges! Make sure to get one which has a user-replaceable "maintenance box", the cheaper ones have a fixed one. You can find that out by e.g. looking at the supplies list on the Epson website, see if the maintenance box is listed alongside the ink. The box contains the sponge where ink goes to during the cle…
That seems really sneaky. Making a sponge replaceable isn't hard or expensive.
Re: HP printers should have EPEAT ecolabels revoked, trade group demands
#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
I found a simple workaround too — not buying HP printers. Nor other HP products.
I own several HP LaserJet, including the 4M+ "upgraded" with more memory / fonts / an ethernet adapter etc. Amazing machines for the time. So I'm an "old HP printers" fan. And yet I'd never ever buy anything from HP. FWIW I'm very happy with Brother. We've got several Brother laser printers and "laser printer + scanner" and we're very happy with these. Zero problem. HP fell really low.
Re: HP printers should have EPEAT ecolabels revoked, trade group demands
#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
That’s the “correct” direct action of course. However, other printer brands are ever hard at work to copy HP’s advances . So when buying a printer, make sure to research in depth.
do they actually have any advances worth their intentional maliciousness?
I guess that’s an “advance” in their ability to extract rent from 30 year old IP.
Re: HP printers should have EPEAT ecolabels revoked, trade group demands
#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
I found a simple workaround too — not buying HP printers. Nor other HP products.
That’s the “correct” direct action of course. However, other printer brands are ever hard at work to copy HP’s advances . So when buying a printer, make sure to research in depth.
Re: HP printers should have EPEAT ecolabels revoked, trade group demands
#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
That’s the “correct” direct action of course. However, other printer brands are ever hard at work to copy HP’s advances . So when buying a printer, make sure to research in depth.
do they actually have any advances worth their intentional maliciousness?
Re: HP printers should have EPEAT ecolabels revoked, trade group demands
#27Again it is very much an Inkjet problem. If only we could somehow get Colour Laser to sell below say $149.
There used to be $150 color lasers from samsung, but HP acquired the business.
Re: HP printers should have EPEAT ecolabels revoked, trade group demands
#28I found a surprisingly simple workaround... Put a resistor, about 1kohm, in the power line to the security chip on the cartridge. Now, whenever the printer tries to read data from the chip, it works. Whenever it tries to record data to the chip (for example, marking the cartridge as empty), that uses more power, and the memory chip doesn't respond. Amazingly, the whole setup just works and prints forever, saying the…
Re: HP printers should have EPEAT ecolabels revoked, trade group demands
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
I found a simple workaround too — not buying HP printers. Nor other HP products.
I own several HP LaserJet, including the 4M+ "upgraded" with more memory / fonts / an ethernet adapter etc. Amazing machines for the time. So I'm an "old HP printers" fan. And yet I'd never ever buy anything from HP. FWIW I'm very happy with Brother. We've got several Brother laser printers and "laser printer + scanner" and we're very happy with these. Zero problem. HP fell really low.
Re: HP printers should have EPEAT ecolabels revoked, trade group demands
#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
That’s the “correct” direct action of course. However, other printer brands are ever hard at work to copy HP’s advances . So when buying a printer, make sure to research in depth.
I've heard that it's pointless to research, just go with Brother.