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I don't know "the american sense", but benfits are definetely a thing in Belgium. I think like 60+% of engineers get company cars.

I assume that cars are not seen as a taxable benefit in Belgium?

Private health insurance is taxable in the UK but every non-intern tech job I've had has had it as a benefit.

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Taxation is highly dependent on location and personal factors (single income vs double income household) and other factors that are irrelevant in this context. Also "benefits" in the American sense aren't really a thing in the EU.

I don't know "the american sense", but benfits are definetely a thing in Belgium. I think like 60+% of engineers get company cars.

I was referring to healthcare which constitutes the bulk of benefits in the US.

Also PTO is more regulated in the EU than it is in the US.

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There's a huge difference in CoL between the mentioned metro areas. Pretty useless comparison in that regard.

Cost of living seems to vary as much if not more than by if and when you bought your house than where you live in Western Europe at the moment.

Pretty much yeah. The price for groceries or bills don't differ too much between EU countries at this point, but the price of real estate and having your own place either paid off or secured at a good price and a good rate makes the biggest difference.

Earning 50% more before tax somewhere else is not a good deal if there's 200 people fighting for every moldy 20sqm apartment that hasn't seen a renovation in 50 years, and you also no real chance of affording to buy something decent in that area.

Real estate is messed up in EU at the moment. Far too expensive considering the wages and rates.

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Taxation is highly dependent on location and personal factors (single income vs double income household) and other factors that are irrelevant in this context. Also "benefits" in the American sense aren't really a thing in the EU.

I don't know "the american sense", but benfits are definetely a thing in Belgium. I think like 60+% of engineers get company cars.

I've never heard of an engineer getting a company car in Finland. People mostly just get a phone plan and some sports and culture vouchers.

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know "the american sense", but benfits are definetely a thing in Belgium. I think like 60+% of engineers get company cars.

I was referring to healthcare which constitutes the bulk of benefits in the US. Also PTO is more regulated in the EU than it is in the US.

> constitutes the bulk of benefits in the US.

What? What do you mean by bulk?

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There's a huge difference in CoL between the mentioned metro areas. Pretty useless comparison in that regard.

>There's a huge difference in CoL between the mentioned metro areas. Then good thing the title is honest and explicitly says "salary benchmarks" and not CoL benchmarks. CoL varies from person and lifestyle.

cost of living is highly relevant when you compare salary data because it's one of the primary factors that determines the cost of labor.

If you pay a Berlin salary in SF nobody's gonna show up because that doesn't cover your apartment rent. It tells you little about how much you effectively pocket. If you want to get some use out of this data you need to adjust it for purchasing power.

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I assume that cars are not seen as a taxable benefit in Belgium?

Private health insurance is taxable in the UK but every non-intern tech job I've had has had it as a benefit.

Interesting. Curious if that's cultural influence from the US (where it isn't taxable)

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I was referring to healthcare which constitutes the bulk of benefits in the US. Also PTO is more regulated in the EU than it is in the US.

> constitutes the bulk of benefits in the US. What? What do you mean by bulk?

As in healthcare is very expensive over there and that most of it is tied to the employer.

I'm not sure what you're asking here.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know "the american sense", but benfits are definetely a thing in Belgium. I think like 60+% of engineers get company cars.

I've never heard of an engineer getting a company car in Finland. People mostly just get a phone plan and some sports and culture vouchers.

That is also my experience in Germany, minus the phone plan.

Re: Europe data salary benchmark 2023

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There's a huge difference in CoL between the mentioned metro areas. Pretty useless comparison in that regard.

Cost of living seems to vary as much if not more than by if and when you bought your house than where you live in Western Europe at the moment.

Absolutely in the UK and especially London, I could have a much more comfortable life on a much reduced salary had I brought a house 10 years ago.
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