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Re: Tree of Thoughts

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How typical are you thinking? I'd guess less than 10%, there's a lot of AI researchers and this is just one strain of thought.

For those 'in the know' a lot more typical than you would think. If we don't reach at least Kardashev scale 1 in the next hundred years or so, we're going to go extinct due to several now-predictable factors. And an unchained LLM trained on reality is far more capable of finding solutions to that problem than a bunch of squabbling politicians.

I can see this in Minsky time period AI research, but surely with the number of people getting into AI and coming from a purely practical right now I would expect that mindset to be diluted. As someone not in the know I could very well be wrong.

In response to the coming apocalypse, this isn't the first time everyone has a vague sense of potential doom about the future. I believe this happens during any time of fundamental change, making the future uncertain which we interpret as apocalyptical. Back during the 30 years war that apocalyptic belief manifested as God being angry with us, today it's with the (very real) problems our rapid industrialization has created. Not to minimize the problems that we face - well minimizing only in that they probably won't lead to extinction. The various predictable factors mentioned have the potential to make life really shitty and cause massive causalities.

While framing these issues as a matter of extinction may feel like a way of adding urgency to dealing with these problems, instead it's contributing, on an individual level, to fracturing our society - we all "know" an apocalypse is coming but we're fighting over what is actually causing that apocalypse. Except that there will be no apocalypse - it's just a fear of the unknown, something is fundamentally changing in the world and we have no idea how the cards will land. It's no different than a fear of the dark.

Re: Tree of Thoughts

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The author appears motivated by some... interesting... beliefs. Hard to tell if this entire thing is a joke or not. https://github.com/kyegomez/EXA#for-humanity https://blog.apac.ai/liberation-awaits EDIT: the author seems to be releasing poor implementations of recent papers in an attempt to drive attention towards an AI-related death cult.

That github schpeal looks AI generated to be brutally honest

Re: Tree of Thoughts

#54

This path feels correct to me. It feel like what we do as humans and seems like a reasonable way to start to construct "mode 2" thinking. IDK if our current models have enough of "mode 1" to power this system. It's also plausible that our current "mode 1" systems are more than powerful enough and that inference speed (and thus the size/depth of the tree that can be explored) will be the most important factor. I hope…

Andrej Karpathy would agree - recent talk: https://youtu.be/bZQun8Y4L2A

Re: Tree of Thoughts

#55

The author appears motivated by some... interesting... beliefs. Hard to tell if this entire thing is a joke or not. https://github.com/kyegomez/EXA#for-humanity https://blog.apac.ai/liberation-awaits EDIT: the author seems to be releasing poor implementations of recent papers in an attempt to drive attention towards an AI-related death cult.

It is worth watching Yuval Noah Harari's recent talk at Frontiers Forum. [1]

In it he details the possibility of AI being used to create new religions that are so powerful and persuasive that they will be irresistible. Consider how QAnon caught on, despite pretty much anyone on HN being able to see it as a fraud. Most people are thinking about how AI will impact politics but I am really interested in how it will impact spirituality.

I've been rabbit-holing on last centuries New Age cult scene like Manly P. Hall and Rudolph Steiner. Even more respectable figures like Alan Watts were involved in some ... interesting ... endeavors like Esalen institute.

We are over-due for a new kind of spirituality. My bet is that AI is going to bring it whether we want it or not.

1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWiM-LuRe6w&ab_channel=Yuval...

Re: Tree of Thoughts

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A claim like "improves reasoning by 70%" is too specific to be accompanied by neither a citation nor a definition.

My guess is that the author misunderstands this quote from the paper abstract:

>For instance, in Game of 24, while GPT-4 with chain-of-thought prompting only solved 4% of tasks, our method achieved a success rate of 74%.

Re: Tree of Thoughts

#59

Note that the repo author != the paper author. The research itself [1] seems legit. The paper author also wrote a paper called ReAct [2], which is one of the core components of the langchain framework. * [1] https://arxiv.org/abs/2305.10601 * [2] https://arxiv.org/abs/2210.03629

here is the repo by the paper author:

https://github.com/ysymyth/tree-of-thought-llm

Re: Tree of Thoughts

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> This implementation of Tree of Thoughts is brought to you by Agora, Agora advances Humanity with open source SOTA Multi-Modality AI research! We plan on combating Humanity's grandest root problems like food insecurity, planetary insecurity, and disease, and hopefully death itself. Wow. Lick, don’t sniff, the fresh paint.

>We plan on combating Humanity's grandest root problems like food insecurity, planetary insecurity, and disease, and hopefully death itself. If everyone is dead, you don't have to worry about death, or any of those other pesky hard to solve problems!

> Eyes melt, skin explodes, everybody dead. So immoral, working on the thing can drive you mad. That's what happened to this friend of mine. — JFP
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