How much of AI's recent success is due to the Forer Effect?
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#2The thing is of the millions of generic things you can say about somebody the ones that got picked did convey a message.
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#3Seems a very specific scenario where you are well-known enough to be able to ask an LLM what it thinks of you and use that criteria to judge how good it is. I don't see Barnum statements being applicable in many other use cases.
It didn't know who I was at all, a great relief all told. The eye of Sauron has not fallen on me yet, it seems.
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#4I'm not convinced by this particular test.
If you were asked to describe a family member, partner, or best friend, I'd bet a good chunk of it would be Forer Effect like statements.
A good way to A/B test this theory would be to ask folks to pick between AI generated statements of a famous person, and snippets from a human-written profile on them.
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#5The Forer Effect can't make chatGPT generate syntactically correct and functional code snippets that I use every day at work.
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#6ChatGPT is way faster at providing pointers that can be used for search or further research. That has nothing to do with Forer Effect.
Might be flattering to people but that’s never my use case.
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#7The Forer Effect can't make chatGPT generate syntactically correct and functional code snippets that I use every day at work.
The goalposts are moving so fast they're red-shifting.
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#8What fraction of people using AI are looking up opinions on themselves? While I'm sure someone has written a completely automated horoscope generator, in general I think these LLMs are being applied in situations where there would be no Forer Effect.
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#9The Forer Effect can't make chatGPT generate syntactically correct and functional code snippets that I use every day at work.
That's ... not the point of the article.
Re: How much of AI's recent success is due to the Forer Effect?
#10The Forer Effect can't make chatGPT generate syntactically correct and functional code snippets that I use every day at work.
The odd thing is that some people report much better results than others. Most literature on the subject points out the importance of a "human in the loop"
https://arxiv.org/abs/2304.13187
Generally, chatbots function in direct communication with humans and do not function autonomously. Thus they are dependent on not just human meaning-making but human thirst for meaning which will find it even when it isn't there.