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58% of US adults have heard of ChatGPT; 14% have tried it

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Re: 58% of US adults have heard of ChatGPT; 14% have tried it

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All the teachers at wife’s school use it like crazy to help with writing crazy long report card comments for students. Usually a 40 hour task 6-8 times a year. School requires multiple paragraphs per student.

I can't shake the feeling that we're going to pad everything with GPT-generated filler text only for other people to use GPT to distill the text again into a consumable summary, from websites to emails to, apparently, teacher evaluations. In some situations, there are social norms to be respected, but often the content rather than the form matters. So not a condolences card from your employer's HR department, but a r…

I would consider it equivalent to putting data into Excel to generate a report with visuals. There are a lot of cases where the data is the same data, but the "wrapper" is different for consumption purposes...and entering it by hand is time consuming and sometimes emotionally complex - e.g. if you are trying to articulate a specific challenge a student faces, it's easier to "talk to the chatbot" to generate completely new variations on what you meant to say than to sit at the word processor in a start-stop edit workflow.

GPT, even 3.5, is very, very good at putting new wrappers on things. It's much better at that than at solving logical challenges or acting as an oracle. If you need that for work, you'll probably already be among the adoptees.

Re: 58% of US adults have heard of ChatGPT; 14% have tried it

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As someone who never used GPT-4, what is so good about it?

It’s just plainly superior, by at least a 25% margin if not higher (imo). That’s not necessarily needed for every task though. ChatGPT’s free version is ‘good enough’ at many mundane tasks already.

What I don't understand about comments like yours is they're completely unquantifiable.

The CTO where I work sent a report recently telling everyone in the company the engineering group is now 95% more productive since we've adopted ChatGPT-4. It's absolutely false. I'd say it was actually a negative distraction for a long time and now, we're finding people are using it to abuse our service. So that's a whole new problem we have to try combat.

I have no idea why this tech makes people want to make statements like this but it's just lies. Most people in the team have stopped using it, use it for silly things and jokes /memes, and some just never touched it at all.

There was a thread here with several pro ChatGPT-4 users complaining it's deteriorated a lot, so which is it?

It's nice people find it helpful, but the blanket statements people make about productivity boosts just seem like nonsense.

Re: 58% of US adults have heard of ChatGPT; 14% have tried it

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Plugins and web browsing. You can enable web browsing for it. It will search the internet for you and read the articles, sites and get back with some pretty decent information

IMO right now it's absurdly awful at searching the web. Which sort of makes sense because that's a truly difficult, nuanced thing to do. I often have much better responses re-running the same prompt on the non-web enabled GPT-4. The only use I've found for that so far is giving it a specific URL to use so I don't have to copy/paste some piece of documentation/etc.

phind.com is GPT 3.5 and 4.0 (selectable) with web browsing, and is 100x better than what ChatGPT is doing.

Re: 58% of US adults have heard of ChatGPT; 14% have tried it

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It’s just plainly superior, by at least a 25% margin if not higher (imo). That’s not necessarily needed for every task though. ChatGPT’s free version is ‘good enough’ at many mundane tasks already.

What I don't understand about comments like yours is they're completely unquantifiable. The CTO where I work sent a report recently telling everyone in the company the engineering group is now 95% more productive since we've adopted ChatGPT-4. It's absolutely false. I'd say it was actually a negative distraction for a long time and now, we're finding people are using it to abuse our service. So that's a whole new pro…

Quality isn’t unquantifiable. Search engines have been qualifying their results quality for a long time. OpenAI recently released a package for quantifying a LLM’s quality https://github.com/openai/evals

I don’t know what to say about your CTO. People are definitely overestimating how useful GitHub Copilot is at least (if they say 2x they’re wrong). But there is no doubt that these products are changing the world and making us more productive.

Re: 58% of US adults have heard of ChatGPT; 14% have tried it

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Open AI is the 21'th most visited site in Japan: https://www.similarweb.com/top-websites/japan/ 47th in the US: https://www.similarweb.com/top-websites/united-states/ I kind of didn't think that ChatGPT was getting traction outside of tech circles but this 100% changed my mind.

On the third day after chatGPT 3.5 was released literally an entire classroom of my students was talking about how they were using it. It is a game changer.

Re: 58% of US adults have heard of ChatGPT; 14% have tried it

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Open AI is the 21'th most visited site in Japan: https://www.similarweb.com/top-websites/japan/ 47th in the US: https://www.similarweb.com/top-websites/united-states/ I kind of didn't think that ChatGPT was getting traction outside of tech circles but this 100% changed my mind.

In my experience it's getting traction everywhere. In the last few months I've spoken to a lawyer, a builder, a marketer, a graphic designer, and several taxi drivers, all who were using it themselves. The lawyer even said they used it at work. I asked them if their firm had any rules around what they could put into it, and they said no.

>The lawyer even said they used it at work. I asked them if their firm had any rules around what they could put into it, and they said no.

That sounds like your lawyer friend might get sued soon!

Re: 58% of US adults have heard of ChatGPT; 14% have tried it

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All the teachers at wife’s school use it like crazy to help with writing crazy long report card comments for students. Usually a 40 hour task 6-8 times a year. School requires multiple paragraphs per student.

This seems so dangerous and this was my fear. Things will become meaningless especially in education.

The education was meaningless the whole time as it turns out.

Re: 58% of US adults have heard of ChatGPT; 14% have tried it

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Open AI is the 21'th most visited site in Japan: https://www.similarweb.com/top-websites/japan/ 47th in the US: https://www.similarweb.com/top-websites/united-states/ I kind of didn't think that ChatGPT was getting traction outside of tech circles but this 100% changed my mind.

In my experience it's getting traction everywhere. In the last few months I've spoken to a lawyer, a builder, a marketer, a graphic designer, and several taxi drivers, all who were using it themselves. The lawyer even said they used it at work. I asked them if their firm had any rules around what they could put into it, and they said no.

Yep ditto. I don’t believe the hype was all that real until I heard random people having conversations about it while out and about. And then south South Park made an episode about. Pretty clearly gone mainstream.

Re: 58% of US adults have heard of ChatGPT; 14% have tried it

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And 99% of VCs have climaxed to ChatGPT.

Just wait for the flood of hedge funds that use "next generation ai-driven modelling" thats actually just a 23 year old fresh out of school typing into chatgpt what stocks to pick with their clients money for today.

Actually, now that I think bit deeper.

There might be some value in sentiment analysis. But that would mean access to user input and the GPT output data. Thankfully probably available in USA. Just get what people are asking or what they are being recommended evaluate how well they follow it and then exploit them for that money, either to front run or do opposite.

Re: 58% of US adults have heard of ChatGPT; 14% have tried it

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Open AI is the 21'th most visited site in Japan: https://www.similarweb.com/top-websites/japan/ 47th in the US: https://www.similarweb.com/top-websites/united-states/ I kind of didn't think that ChatGPT was getting traction outside of tech circles but this 100% changed my mind.

In my experience it's getting traction everywhere. In the last few months I've spoken to a lawyer, a builder, a marketer, a graphic designer, and several taxi drivers, all who were using it themselves. The lawyer even said they used it at work. I asked them if their firm had any rules around what they could put into it, and they said no.

My partner and all of the other teachers in their school are writing their school reports in ChatGPT now. They put in a few points to describe how the student is performing, and the model puts it into a cohesive format. It's made an activity that normally takes an evening per student (maybe 20+ on a good run) into one that can be done in 3 or 4. The quality of the reports is up too. Each child is getting a completely individual report, not one copy/pasted from 4 or 5 others. The teachers can spend more time finding the right words to describe how the child is doing, and less on whether the sentence is grammatically correct.
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