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OpenAI CEO's threat to quit EU draws lawmaker backlash

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Re: OpenAI CEO's threat to quit EU draws lawmaker backlash

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Post by cft »

exeldapp wrote: post #8

Sounds like his talking backfired. "We need to regulate AI! No, not that much!" There's no way OpenAI will quit EU and leave it for competitors to take, easy bluff to call. The whole thing makes it seem like the desire for AI-related regulation isn't ethics motivated and is instead only trying to make it harder for competition to start.

In EU it's not possible to develop a viable competitor due to overregulation. Where's EU's Google? Where's EU's Starlink? Where's EU's Microsoft? Where's EU's Samsung?

Re: OpenAI CEO's threat to quit EU draws lawmaker backlash

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Post by jkxyz »

usernew wrote: post #18
exeldapp wrote: post #8

Sounds like his talking backfired. "We need to regulate AI! No, not that much!" There's no way OpenAI will quit EU and leave it for competitors to take, easy bluff to call. The whole thing makes it seem like the desire for AI-related regulation isn't ethics motivated and is instead only trying to make it harder for competition to start.

What exactly does "quit EU" mean. They make an app that connects over the internet. Anyone including businesses, are free to use their money how they see fit by paying for a service that runs in a another country. All the EU can do here is get rid of the business and infrastructure presence of this company in the EU. Getting rid of jobs and tax revenue. They can also do a China and prosecute their own citizens for tr…

> Funnily enough, the EU guy who is leading this and doubling down, is Romanian.

What is the relevance of your personal (and poorly informed) opinions about Romanians? It’s a needlessly low blow and it’s tiring to hear the same myths perpetuated by people who have zero context on Romanian culture and life. If you do not associate Romania with honesty, morality, and innovation, then it’s because you have been misinformed.

> Anyone including businesses, are free to use their money how they see fit by paying for a service that runs in a another country.

I don’t think that has ever been true in any legal jurisdiction. Every country has restrictions on trade and payments that can be made when acquiring services domestically or abroad.

Re: OpenAI CEO's threat to quit EU draws lawmaker backlash

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Post by anankaie »

junofan wrote: post #7
jacquesm wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm perfectly fine with that. It's not as if OpenAI is going to be the sole supplier even if they have a head start today.

These models are useful enough that people are fine accessing them through VPNs. It doesn’t seem like a big deal to geoblock the EU.

The problem is when third-party (to OpenAI, and I include Microsoft here, for the purposes if this comment) companies try to build on top of this product - they will not be able to launch products on top of it in the EU either (unless they do a weird user-initiated transfer of data to the US, process it, and return the result.

Even then, the EU has been experimenting with trying to claim sovereignty over income from outside the EU for non-EU-based multi-nationals, so they could concert ivably target this "workaround". It remains to be seen whether the USA will attempt to persuade them to remember how Westphalian sovereignty works, or I'd the US government decides to match them and start targeting foreign companies' foreign turnover in applying remedies.

Re: OpenAI CEO's threat to quit EU draws lawmaker backlash

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Post by [deleted] »

exeldapp wrote: post #8

Sounds like his talking backfired. "We need to regulate AI! No, not that much!" There's no way OpenAI will quit EU and leave it for competitors to take, easy bluff to call. The whole thing makes it seem like the desire for AI-related regulation isn't ethics motivated and is instead only trying to make it harder for competition to start.

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Re: OpenAI CEO's threat to quit EU draws lawmaker backlash

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Post by danielmarkbruce »

exeldapp wrote: post #8

Sounds like his talking backfired. "We need to regulate AI! No, not that much!" There's no way OpenAI will quit EU and leave it for competitors to take, easy bluff to call. The whole thing makes it seem like the desire for AI-related regulation isn't ethics motivated and is instead only trying to make it harder for competition to start.

Google has threatened and left jurisdictions. It's not an easy bluff to call. If the regulation makes it practically impossible to deliver a good product, why wouldn't they leave?

Re: OpenAI CEO's threat to quit EU draws lawmaker backlash

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Post by danielmarkbruce »

june_twenty wrote: post #15

Altman seems inexperienced for this type of role. I guess he didn't really expect OpenAI to be the leader of the AI race. Hopefully strong competition comes along soon.

It's easy to say that, but who would make a better candidate? It's a very weird and unique situation he/they are in. He just looks young, he's been around the block a couple times.

Re: OpenAI CEO's threat to quit EU draws lawmaker backlash

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Post by shreyshnaccount »

lnxg33k1 wrote: post #16
afpx wrote: post #11

Slow down progress for 5.8 billion people so that 400 million feel protected.

It's people that goes bankrupt for some medical procedure, that makes their kids get shot at school for some freedom fetish, and with a insane wealth hunting culture, as a european I would hardly care about the needs of americans or the rest of child employing wastelands

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