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Whistleblower drops 100 GB of Tesla secrets to German news site

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Re: Whistleblower drops 100 GB of Tesla secrets to German news site

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You shouldn't tail any car in general. There's a lot more 'real' braking out there than 'phantom' braking.

Sure, but an unexpected full ABS lock when you can see nothing in front of the tesla is going to be yard for most to react quickly too even at a decent distance. 10 second follow distances are only possible in most metros during very light traffic.

You only need 2 seconds to be safe. It's longer than you think.

Re: Whistleblower drops 100 GB of Tesla secrets to German news site

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How different is this from any other similar sized companies behaviour? This site doesn't seem that impartial/unbiased. From a linked article on Tesla: > It’s also worth noting that the above email was sent after 2 a.m. Pacific, which isn’t specifically relevant to the faked video. But it does make it look like Musk is a loser with no friends or anything else to do other than work. Loser.

Is what you raise relevant? Is it fine if everybody does it? Is the leak not real because you found a link to it on an unimpartial site? Edit:spelling

I think you meant 'biased' and not 'impartial'. I am not being pedantic; I don't want your sentence to have the wrong meaning so I am bringing it to your attention if that is the case.

Re: Whistleblower drops 100 GB of Tesla secrets to German news site

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Probably because the world is transitioning to EVs and they have a 5ish year head start over most other automakers. There’s a long list of technologies Tesla has already shipped that other car makers are just beginning to explore. - Structural batteries - The “Octovalve” heat pump - Mega casted car frames - Their custom ML SOC The TSLA market cap is debatable, but their lead is real.

The fact they seem to be custom manufacturing silicon carbide FET's.... While everyone else is using off the shelf components. Those custom FET's haven't yet publically been torn down. But I'd guess they enable more efficient motor inverters. More efficiency means smaller battery, and less cooling. Less cooling means the whole heatpump system can be downsized, reducing weight. Reduced weight means smaller battery. Sm…

Do you really want 'untested' technology hurtling you down a road at nearly 100 mph?

Re: Whistleblower drops 100 GB of Tesla secrets to German news site

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When a manufacturer is selling millions of cars, I think it's better to judge their safety using statistics rather than some qualitative reasoning. Are Teslas measurably less safe than other cars? I.e. is the accident probability per km driven on a Tesla higher than on another car? I haven't seen any data suggesting that, but I'm happy to be corrected.

Tela insurance is way more expensive than other cars.

I paid $129/mo for insurance ($500 deductible) on a Toyota Highlander. It went up to $179/mo for a Tesla Model Y with the same insurer, and when I switched to Tesla for insurance it went down to $124-144/mo (dynamic pricing, $1000 deductible).

Re: Whistleblower drops 100 GB of Tesla secrets to German news site

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Gatekeep, gaslight, girlboss The official policy to deprive customers and victims of information as much as possible is shocking from the standpoint of being flagrantly, cynically customer-hostile to the point of probable illegality, but it's right out of both Musk's normal playbook and that of his erstwhile colleagues at e.g. Paypal For me, cars cross a very key danger threshold, which I express like this: "I am tru…

I prefer the bus or a walk anyway, who wants to spend time on silly smelly cars anyway? it's so 1990's

Re: Whistleblower drops 100 GB of Tesla secrets to German news site

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Is what you raise relevant? Is it fine if everybody does it? Is the leak not real because you found a link to it on an unimpartial site? Edit:spelling

I think you meant 'biased' and not 'impartial'. I am not being pedantic; I don't want your sentence to have the wrong meaning so I am bringing it to your attention if that is the case.

Oh no thanks! it was a typo, added un at the begining.

Re: Whistleblower drops 100 GB of Tesla secrets to German news site

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Gatekeep, gaslight, girlboss The official policy to deprive customers and victims of information as much as possible is shocking from the standpoint of being flagrantly, cynically customer-hostile to the point of probable illegality, but it's right out of both Musk's normal playbook and that of his erstwhile colleagues at e.g. Paypal For me, cars cross a very key danger threshold, which I express like this: "I am tru…

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Re: Whistleblower drops 100 GB of Tesla secrets to German news site

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I avoid driving anywhere near Tesla’s, especially tailing them. Phantom braking is not okay.

Agreed. With human drivers you can, in most cases, see their intent with the way they move. With tesla or other self driving systems it is a black box that is way less predictable.

Re: Whistleblower drops 100 GB of Tesla secrets to German news site

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I treat them like the safest cars to be around. Because statistically, they are?

According to statistics that Tesla publish. I would like to see mercedes publish their own statistics on their FSD. Given the tight constraints where they allow self driving, they could easily claim 100% safety record and thus infinitive more safe than any other manufacturer. It would be misleading, but statistically it would be the truth (any accidents could be said to be outside the constraint and thus will not cou…

Can someone present evidence that Teslas are more expensive to insured than other comparable vehicles? Along with evidence that the difference is because of safety rather than cost of repairs?

Re: Whistleblower drops 100 GB of Tesla secrets to German news site

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Gatekeep, gaslight, girlboss The official policy to deprive customers and victims of information as much as possible is shocking from the standpoint of being flagrantly, cynically customer-hostile to the point of probable illegality, but it's right out of both Musk's normal playbook and that of his erstwhile colleagues at e.g. Paypal For me, cars cross a very key danger threshold, which I express like this: "I am tru…

When a manufacturer is selling millions of cars, I think it's better to judge their safety using statistics rather than some qualitative reasoning. Are Teslas measurably less safe than other cars? I.e. is the accident probability per km driven on a Tesla higher than on another car? I haven't seen any data suggesting that, but I'm happy to be corrected.

>When a manufacturer is selling millions of cars, I think it's better to judge their safety using statistics rather than some qualitative reasoning.

Why do you think that? If we used statistics to guide criminal justice policy we’d be in big trouble

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