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Gorilla: Large Language Model connected with massive APIs

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Re: Gorilla: Large Language Model connected with massive APIs

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Don't worry folks, the years and years of "of course we'd never connect experimental AI systems to the open internet" assurances were never necessary for safe development and deployment. This reassessment was founded on the last several months that showed us these systems are close to 100% dependable, they never deceive humans, they are entirely aligned with human morals (you know, all those morals we all agree on),…

Other than snark, do you have a good argument? We know that technology can be error-prone, and LLMs fail in a great plethora of ways, but you are trying to sell an AI Doom narrative. I have never bought the idea that AI will be airgapped, because the whole paradigm of Yudkowsky at al. is ludicrous and even within it airgapping was a strawman of a technique (they argue that a truly dangerous AI will get itself out reg…

Sure, my argument is that there is zero evidence whatsoever we will be able to prevent these from becoming dangerous or that we’d be able to stop deployment once they do.

All technologies are dangerous, and many of the most dangerous ones correctly have tons and tons of safeguards around them both as intrinsic properties of the technology (e.g. it takes nationstate resources to produce a nuke) and extrinsic constraints (e.g. it’s illegal to have campfires in many extremely dry locales).

We have blown through checkpoint after checkpoint and here, in this very comment, we have perhaps the most brazen example one could produce:

Well geez, now that we’re thinking about it beyond a cursory glance, alignment looks really hard and perhaps unsolvable. Does that mean we should perhaps slow at least widespread deployment of these increasingly powerful systems? Should we be evaluating control schemes like those that mitigate risks of genetic engineering or nuclear weapons?

Well no! We need to discard alignment!

Re: Gorilla: Large Language Model connected with massive APIs

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Why should they, and it seems very silly to flag a post for their preference of name. Are users on Twitter birds? Or is Mastodon filled with elephants? Name is merely a symbol in today's world Google is synonymous to search but Google is not just search anymore. I'm honestly curious about your gripe with it.

Some people confuse research with production. Imagine if Einstein named his theory the Theory of Chimps, just to get attention.

What's the point of research if it can't gain attention, how many people really understood or even know about some space magic, before interstellar kind of managed to ELI5. Research is meant for everyone, and in today's world you bring attention to it with catchy names. I wonder if Google was named PageRank Algorithm runner, how many would've even used it.

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> If AI becomes harmful we will likely see it in motion and be able to respond and adapt to it. What are you basing this on? > AI won't likely move the needle much because it's going to be less powerful than humans. Won't it just be used to augment the amount of harm that humans can do?

> What are you basing this on? History. We have had a period of adaptation and experimentation with every other invention in history. This one likely will be no different. > Won't it just be used to augment the amount of harm that humans can do? Sure, but that's everything that makes us more capable. It also makes us more able to defend and create.

>History

Right, I learned from Napoleon about the dangers of AI...

The large land mammals were doing pretty well too, until a bipedal superintelligence showed up.

History is a get thing to learn from and a very poor thing to assume is going to repeat.

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How exactly do you propose we adapt to swarms of AI agents that quickly outnumber humans in quantity and quality of content produced?

> that quickly outnumber humans in quantity and quality I suggest you respond by enjoying the quality content.

Sorry, was busy plugging my paperclip optimizer into the internet, what's up exactly?

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I don't see cars as being comparable to the universal usage of electrical energy as an intermediate of converting physical forms of energy. Not even close. And also, the "deployment" of cars if you will, has brought and still brings malignant effecfs on society, not only positives. If by cars you mean cars for transporting individual people in non-critical situations and the corresponding industrial and political dev…

If a technology has positives and negatives consequences for the world, but the positives outweigh the negatives, then we want those technologies to be developed. For cars, the positives outweigh the negatives.

>For cars, the positives outweigh the negatives

TBD: climate change is the unaddressed elephant in that room

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How feasible would it be for me to run things like this and a ChatGPT/CoPilot style LLM on my local servers?

Welcome to https://old.reddit.com/r/LocalGPT/

https://old.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/ < much larger/active (and its not just for the meta-llama)

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Other than snark, do you have a good argument? We know that technology can be error-prone, and LLMs fail in a great plethora of ways, but you are trying to sell an AI Doom narrative. I have never bought the idea that AI will be airgapped, because the whole paradigm of Yudkowsky at al. is ludicrous and even within it airgapping was a strawman of a technique (they argue that a truly dangerous AI will get itself out reg…

Sure, my argument is that there is zero evidence whatsoever we will be able to prevent these from becoming dangerous or that we’d be able to stop deployment once they do. All technologies are dangerous, and many of the most dangerous ones correctly have tons and tons of safeguards around them both as intrinsic properties of the technology (e.g. it takes nationstate resources to produce a nuke) and extrinsic constrain…

I wish I could create an AGI that would be able to create undetectable bots to upvote this comment hundreds of thousands of times.

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Other than snark, do you have a good argument? We know that technology can be error-prone, and LLMs fail in a great plethora of ways, but you are trying to sell an AI Doom narrative. I have never bought the idea that AI will be airgapped, because the whole paradigm of Yudkowsky at al. is ludicrous and even within it airgapping was a strawman of a technique (they argue that a truly dangerous AI will get itself out reg…

Sure, my argument is that there is zero evidence whatsoever we will be able to prevent these from becoming dangerous or that we’d be able to stop deployment once they do. All technologies are dangerous, and many of the most dangerous ones correctly have tons and tons of safeguards around them both as intrinsic properties of the technology (e.g. it takes nationstate resources to produce a nuke) and extrinsic constrain…

Wait, I too thought your original comment on alignment questioned its fundamental premise—than one dominant culture should not/cannot define the adequacy of alignment.

I would agree with that. There is no single adequate/acceptable framework for alignment. I have mine (which resonates with R. Rorty’s pragmatic philosophy) but can I deny you your framework for good AI alignment, or other cultures and nation states?

For better or for worse the secular western reductionist world does not get to call all of the shots, even though this is the origin of the technology and the core problem of AI heading to AGI.

Not that any of us know where this is heading, but unlike some technologies this one is clearly heading out into the open with unprecedented speed. We all have justified angst.

Who can claim priority at this point in imposing order and de-risking the process? I am sure I do not want OpenAI, Microsoft, Google, the US government, or the Catholic Church trying to impose their judgements. Get ready for AGI cultural diversity and I sincerely hope—coexistence.

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