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Re: How (not) to get a job at a startup...

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Perhaps, or possibly "How discourage self-entitled leeches from applying to your company".

I don't see how you can label people looking for jobs to be leeches. PS. It just hit me after staring at this post for a minute that leaches isn't even the right spelling. Wow, I need coffee.

Thanks for the correction.

Re: How (not) to get a job at a startup...

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Now I feel undervalued making 60k in SF bay area three years ago :(

It really depends on what you're doing, where you're doing it and who you're doing it for. If you were a writer 3 years ago, you were banking it.

I made websites at a big corp. I thought it was pretty decent for a kid like me that dropped out of school and didn't want to go back. I worked extra too just to try to impress my bosses because the name and reference on my resume was well worth it.

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Ha. Everyone here encourages thinking that differs from ours. I suppose we are generic in the job posting (I really appreciate the feedback) and again, as I stated, we're trying to find someone who is looking for more than just money, someone looking for place to work where they fit in and feel at home. If you were trying to meet a decent girl with values, would you go around waving $100 bills and wearing diamond pen…

I kind of wish you would stop using that girlfriend analogy. If I wanted a decent nice girl to take home to mama I wouldn't be using okcupid or match.com or eharmony or even craigslist. You're looking for an employee -- since you're not going to give them founder status -- and as such you simply want someone that exhibits more passion so that you can feel good about paying them. Or, in my cynical view, you want to ex…

"If I wanted a decent nice girl to take home to mama I wouldn't be using okcupid or match.com or eharmony or even craigslist."

Do you realize that these sights encompass 10s of millions of people? What is your bar for "decent"?

I can only assume you would choose to use http://flowmingle.com instead.

Re: How (not) to get a job at a startup...

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I agree he was obnoxious in his email, but the "We’ll take care of you ... trust me" response doesn't inspire a ton of confidence, sorry. Surely this is what stock options are for?

If they treat candidates like that, imagine what they do to employees.

Re: How (not) to get a job at a startup...

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It really depends on what you're doing, where you're doing it and who you're doing it for. If you were a writer 3 years ago, you were banking it.

I made websites at a big corp. I thought it was pretty decent for a kid like me that dropped out of school and didn't want to go back. I worked extra too just to try to impress my bosses because the name and reference on my resume was well worth it.

It probably was then.

Re: How (not) to get a job at a startup...

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I kind of wish you would stop using that girlfriend analogy. If I wanted a decent nice girl to take home to mama I wouldn't be using okcupid or match.com or eharmony or even craigslist. You're looking for an employee -- since you're not going to give them founder status -- and as such you simply want someone that exhibits more passion so that you can feel good about paying them. Or, in my cynical view, you want to ex…

"If I wanted a decent nice girl to take home to mama I wouldn't be using okcupid or match.com or eharmony or even craigslist." Do you realize that these sights encompass 10s of millions of people? What is your bar for "decent"? I can only assume you would choose to use http://flowmingle.com instead.

He probably just prefers the real life/in person thing. Me too.

Re: How (not) to get a job at a startup...

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Ha. Everyone here encourages thinking that differs from ours. I suppose we are generic in the job posting (I really appreciate the feedback) and again, as I stated, we're trying to find someone who is looking for more than just money, someone looking for place to work where they fit in and feel at home. If you were trying to meet a decent girl with values, would you go around waving $100 bills and wearing diamond pen…

We're trying to find someone who would be looking at this as an opportunity The onus is on you to show that this job is an opportunity - that's what a job advert is for. Sorry, but your ad fails to do that. If you're a startup, you don't need to emphasize wii and ping pong. You need to show that the candidate has a chance to be an important part of a successful company, and might make some fairly significant money if…

Exactly. The job posting gives the feeling that a memo will be sent out the first week you are there:

Wii and ping pong are provided for use only during lunch, 12:00->12:30. Please adhere to the rules.

Maybe I am being a bit too cynical.

Re: How (not) to get a job at a startup...

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I kind of wish you would stop using that girlfriend analogy. If I wanted a decent nice girl to take home to mama I wouldn't be using okcupid or match.com or eharmony or even craigslist. You're looking for an employee -- since you're not going to give them founder status -- and as such you simply want someone that exhibits more passion so that you can feel good about paying them. Or, in my cynical view, you want to ex…

"If I wanted a decent nice girl to take home to mama I wouldn't be using okcupid or match.com or eharmony or even craigslist." Do you realize that these sights encompass 10s of millions of people? What is your bar for "decent"? I can only assume you would choose to use http://flowmingle.com instead.

"sights". Are we all going for the "Most grammar/spelling mistakes in a comments page" world record here?

Re: How (not) to get a job at a startup...

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I kind of wish you would stop using that girlfriend analogy. If I wanted a decent nice girl to take home to mama I wouldn't be using okcupid or match.com or eharmony or even craigslist. You're looking for an employee -- since you're not going to give them founder status -- and as such you simply want someone that exhibits more passion so that you can feel good about paying them. Or, in my cynical view, you want to ex…

"If I wanted a decent nice girl to take home to mama I wouldn't be using okcupid or match.com or eharmony or even craigslist." Do you realize that these sights encompass 10s of millions of people? What is your bar for "decent"? I can only assume you would choose to use http://flowmingle.com instead.

True, but the facilitation of a relationship occurs much better in real life, no? As in, I meet girls and chat them up in real life before making the judgment call to date them or to continue a relationship with them.

And despite having advanced so far, there's a stigma with people using online dating services. Kind of the same with job hiring sites. Let's not forget that a lot of positions in companies are filled through connections and networking rather than applying blindly to job sites.

My point is that equating finding employees with finding a girlfriend is odd on so many levels. Most of which being that I really really really don't want to be caught playing third base with my hires.

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