Kissinger's turning 100 this Saturday. The final horcrux of 20th century imperialism.
Wow, I must have been the 23rd person to show up at this party — he and I share the same birthday.
Kissinger's killing fields
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Never mind that the whole war was a crime in the first place, I guess.
"Sure he was robbing a bank, but that guard pointed a gun at him! That makes the killing justifiable!"
Well, it might. But under the circumstances, no, it doesn't.
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#33> An exclusive archive of formerly classified U.S. military documents — assembled from the files of a secret Pentagon task force that investigated war crimes during the 1970s, inspector generals’ inquiries buried amid thousands of pages of unrelated documents, and other materials discovered during hundreds of hours of research at the U.S. National Archives — offers previously unpublished, unreported, and underappreci…
Is there one of the four articles you'd recommend reading first / consider most significant?
'Blood on his hands,' the other 3 flesh out specific claims.
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#34Not just Cambodia. What Kissinger and Nixon did in Chile in 1973 was a crime that brought untold suffering to the people of Chile. "...[What are we to make of] President Nixon and Secretary of State Kissinger who, having been emboldened by various multinational corporations such as IT&T and PEPSICO, pursued another attempt to bring down Allende, an attempt which was operated through the White House and even kept secr…
We're still doing the same antics. The OAS and State Dept supported the failed (literal) fascist coup in Bolivia, and also the recent one in Peru that has lead to quite a few deaths so far due to police/military brutality. Both were claimed to somehow be about upholding democracy despite strong popular opposition.
Like the old joke goes-
Q: Why will there never be a coup d’état in Washington?
A: Because there’s no American embassy there.
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#35Kissinger's turning 100 this Saturday. The final horcrux of 20th century imperialism.
Kissinger's friendship with Putin must be a thorn in the side of his many defenders in DC. "Putin and Kissinger, indeed, met regularly – at least fifteen times. Once Putin was even invited for dinner at Kissinger’s home in New York. A “close and trusting collaboration” seemed in particular be established between the Kremlin and Kissinger Associates, Kissinger’s consulting firm." [0] [0] "The Strange Putin-Kissinger F…
Trump himself openly talks about admiring Putin and preferring the way Putin leads to anything here in America, and high ranking members of the American Republican party spent at least one recent July 4th in Moscow meeting with Putin.
Connections with the Russian Oligarchy haven't harmed them at all, especially since all their followers are convinced it was a hoax.
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#36"The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer." -- H. Kissinger. It's sad this deplorable human being was given the Nobel Peace Prize.
Once more the Sith will rule the galaxy, and we shall have... peace.
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#37"The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer." -- H. Kissinger. It's sad this deplorable human being was given the Nobel Peace Prize.
It's still not too late to bring the blood-money profiteering war criminals Kissinger and Cheney before The Hague. While the US isn't a signatory to the ICC, a cargo van and a private jet would solve that.
They should die in custody and disgrace while Snowden and Assange should be free.
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#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
The quote is apocryphal. There is no evidence he said that. And if he did, it was in jest.
Kissinger him self claims to have said it. https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/P860114-1573_MC_b.html#ef...
“Military men are just dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns in foreign policy.”
― Henry Kissinger
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#39Earlier quoted context omitted.
The US was in Vietnam fundamentally because graduates of the most elite US universities were not intellectually prepared to distinguish a genuine—if morally suspect—anti-colonial popular revolution from the kind of externally orchestrated Communist takeovers of the immediate post-WW2 period.
The sad thing was that Ho Chi Minh had previously lived in the United States and initially was friendly toward the US until they started meddling in Vietnam. If the US could had gotten past the whole "communism = enemy" thing, they probably could have had quite good relations with a communist Vietnam.
The US has pretty good relations with Vietnam now
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#40Neither major US party has significantly different policy than Kissinger, and currently both are significantly more aggressive. They also both believe that Domino Theory is true. The major difference is that Kissinger and Nixon opened up China, while the US sees the comfort and wealth of Chinese people as the biggest threat facing the world today.
Kissinger is a scapegoat that lets everyone else off. He's another Judith Miller for the liberal soul.
Here's the LA Times calling Kissinger a wimp last year: https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2022-02-21/richard-nix...
Here's NYT pretending they weren't calling him an idiot and a coward by writing a story quoting only people calling him an idiot and a coward: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/25/world/europe/henry-kissin...
edit: also, I hate to add this because it's so 2023, but it's a trope that we blame on the one Jewish guy everything a bunch of WASPs did on his advice.