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Kissinger's killing fields

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Re: Kissinger's killing fields

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Kissinger's turning 100 this Saturday. The final horcrux of 20th century imperialism.

Watching what’s become of Ukraine and China must be keeping him going. Probably doesn’t even need a Viagra prescription anymore.

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post #7

"The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer." -- H. Kissinger. It's sad this deplorable human being was given the Nobel Peace Prize.

The quote is apocryphal. There is no evidence he said that. And if he did, it was in jest.

Kissinger him self claims to have said it.

https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/P860114-1573_MC_b.html#ef...

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post #7

"The illegal we do immediately. The unconstitutional takes a little longer." -- H. Kissinger. It's sad this deplorable human being was given the Nobel Peace Prize.

The quote is apocryphal. There is no evidence he said that. And if he did, it was in jest.

… and if it wasn’t in jest: “sticks and stones”.

Re: Kissinger's killing fields

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post #8

Kissinger's turning 100 this Saturday. The final horcrux of 20th century imperialism.

There is a saying in Turkish that roughly translates: "Nothing bad happens to bad people, God has to protect the good people".

Here is Kissinger being asked directly: https://youtu.be/p9vj2IkpBEw?t=7

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The quote is apocryphal. There is no evidence he said that. And if he did, it was in jest.

Kissinger him self claims to have said it. https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/P860114-1573_MC_b.html#ef...

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post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Kissinger him self claims to have said it. https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/P860114-1573_MC_b.html#ef...

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Works for me, here's the relevant segment:

Esenbel: The Europeans should find ways to meet quick needs; for example, the Air Force needs spare parts. For other items that they can't find in the stocks, maybe you could make a deal with the Dutch or others to send it here.

Macomber: That is illegal.

Kissinger: Before the Freedom of Information Act, I used to say at meetings, "The illegal we do immediately; the unconstitutional takes a little longer." [laughter] But since the Freedom of Information Act, I'm afraid to say things like that.

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Not just Cambodia. What Kissinger and Nixon did in Chile in 1973 was a crime that brought untold suffering to the people of Chile.

"...[What are we to make of] President Nixon and Secretary of State Kissinger who, having been emboldened by various multinational corporations such as IT&T and PEPSICO, pursued another attempt to bring down Allende, an attempt which was operated through the White House and even kept secret from the 40 Committee? According to Kissinger, this plan involved a group that was unknown to others ‘and charged with the responsibility of working with the Chilean military in bringing about a coup against Allende.”? They suc- ceeded."[0]

[0] "Democracy Versus The National Security State", Marcus Raskin, 1976:

https://archive.org/details/democracy-versus-the-national-se...

Re: Kissinger's killing fields

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Why was the US in Vietnam in the first place if the assumption was that Capitalism was much better than Communism? For something to be so much better than the alternative it sure was a close ideological race between the 2 systems.

The US was in Vietnam fundamentally because graduates of the most elite US universities were not intellectually prepared to distinguish a genuine—if morally suspect—anti-colonial popular revolution from the kind of externally orchestrated Communist takeovers of the immediate post-WW2 period.
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