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The tiny corp raised $5.1M

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Re: The tiny corp raised $5.1M

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Post by vippy »

porphyra wrote: post #136
birken wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a very happy user of Comma, I think it is reasonable to say the company is going to fail, but that ignores that the product they created is still awesome. Comma is light years better than any built-in driving assist in any non-Tesla car. And it's comparable to Tesla for far less money. The reason the company might fail is because their main thesis, being that car manufacturers would just license the self driving t…

Car manufacturers ended up using Mobileye though...

That wasn't precisely by choice though, IIRC.

Re: The tiny corp raised $5.1M

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Post by zaroth »

neom wrote: post #120
threeseed wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Both Cruise and Waymo have human backup in case of unexpected edge cases. I suspect they are going to be needed for quite some time to come.

Waymo removed it's backup drivers years ago... https://spectrumnews1.com/ap-top-news/2020/10/08/waymo-remov... https://www.azfamily.com/2022/08/29/waymo-launches-its-self-... There was also a waymo press released this year that stated all rides in Arizona are now backup driver free, although I can't find it.

They removed the human from the car. There’s still humans to recover from the edge cases. I don’t know if they actually remote control the cars or if they have to send a driver though.

Re: The tiny corp raised $5.1M

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Post by justapassenger »

birken wrote: post #127
thesausageking wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're slowing burning through their VC money trying to make a business out of the hobbyist market while Cruise and Waymo have fully autonomous cars deployed in SF and are scaling up.

As a very happy user of Comma, I think it is reasonable to say the company is going to fail, but that ignores that the product they created is still awesome. Comma is light years better than any built-in driving assist in any non-Tesla car. And it's comparable to Tesla for far less money. The reason the company might fail is because their main thesis, being that car manufacturers would just license the self driving t…

> As a very happy user of Comma, I think it is reasonable to say the company is going to fail, but that ignores that the product they created is still awesome. Comma is light years better than any built-in driving assist in any non-Tesla car. And it's comparable to Tesla for far less money.

I'm Comma user in one of my cars as well, and I do like it. But, when was last time you tried built-in driving assist in a Tesla-priced car?

Tesla's driver assist is nothing special nowadays.

Re: The tiny corp raised $5.1M

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Post by typon »

foobiekr wrote: post #125
tzhenghao wrote: post #7

> I think the only way to start an AI chip company is to start with the software. The computing in ML is not general purpose computing. 95% of models in use today (including LLMs and image generation) have all their compute and memory accesses statically computable. Agree with this insight. One thing Nvidia got right was a focus on software. They introduced CUDA [1] back in 2007 when the full set of use cases for it…

I know the founders of an AI chip company that taped out and got working chips on their first go. They got their chip done, it’s pretty solid. Chip has great perf and is super power efficient, a solid delivery. I knew they'd nail it and they did. The SW story is a train wreck, though. The problem basically was that they couldn’t hire any good SW people. As I said I know the founders. They are both genuinely decent gu…

As a SW person who's worked at AI chip company, this is 100% true.

Re: The tiny corp raised $5.1M

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Post by godelski »

nl wrote: post #90
godelski wrote: post #46

> There’s a [Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24GB] already on the market. For $999, you get a 123 TFLOP card with 24 GB of 960 GB/s RAM. This is the best FLOPS per dollar today, and yet…nobody in ML uses it. > I promise it’s better than the chip you taped out! It has 58B transistors on TSMC N5, and it’s like the 20th generation chip made by the company, 3rd in this series. Why are you so arrogant that you think you can make a bet…

> So why not just fix AMD accelerators in pytorch? Both ROCm and pytorch are open sourced. Isn't the point of the OSS community to use the community to solve problems? Because there's no real evidence that AMD cares about this problem, and without them caring your efforts may well be replaced by whatever AMD does next in the space. Their Brooks language[1] is abandoned, OpenCL doesn't compare well, ROCm is like the S…

> This is geohot. He knows how to build software, and how to fix problems.

This is a nonsequitor. This feels like when my uncle learns that I know how to program he asks me to build a website. These are two different things. I do ML and scientific computing, I'm not your guy. Hotz is a wiz kid but why should we expect his talents to be universal? Generalists don't exist.

And we're talking the guy who tweeted about believing that the integers and reals have the same cardinality right? Between that and his tweets on quantum we definitely have strong evidence that his jailbreaking skills don't translate to math or physics.

He's clearly good at what he does. There's no doubt about that. But why should I believe that his skills translate to other domains?

STOP MAKING GODS OUT OF MEN. Seriously, can we stop this? What does Stanning accomplish? It's creepy. It's creepy if it is BTS, Bieber, Elon, Robert Downey Jr, or Hotz.

> Read "The Red Team (AMD)" section in the linked article:

Clearly I did, I quoted from it. You quoted from the next section (So why does no one use it?).

Re: The tiny corp raised $5.1M

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Post by Lapsa »

Lapsa wrote: post #155

I find it peculiar. just recently folks were tryharding to make everything and your kitchen sink Turing complete and now it creeps in menacingly on its own

also, I like the spirit of: "I don’t want to live in a world of closed AI running in a cloud you’ve never seen". shake those shills a bit

Re: The tiny corp raised $5.1M

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Post by godelski »

TheAceOfHearts wrote: post #109
thesausageking wrote: post #88

For background, "geohot", is George Hotz, who's a known hacker / tech personality[0] This project fits the pattern of his previous projects: he gets excited about the currently hot thing in tech, makes his own knockoff version, generates a ton of buzz in the tech press for it, and then it fizzles out because he doesn't have the resources or attention span to actually make something at that scale. In 2016, Tesla and s…

My opinion of geohot definitely dropped after he started tweeting how easy it would be to fix Twitter, and then he started soliciting free work. He obviously underestimated the difficulty of shipping a feature across web and mobile. Hacking a prototype is trivial. Making it work well for all platforms, fully accessible, and across all supported languages is a bigger hurdle. It just gave me the impression that he thou…

For me it was when he said that the cardinality of integers is the same as real numbers. Then I saw his twitter and all the politics and crazy stuff about QM.

Re: The tiny corp raised $5.1M

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Post by agnosticmantis »

agnosticmantis wrote: post #94

> The human brain has about 20 PFLOPS of compute. Where is this number coming from? The number of spikes per second? Edit: doing a quick search, it doesn’t seem like there’s a consensus on the order of magnitude of this. Here’s a summary of various estimates: https://aiimpacts.org/brain-performance-in-flops/

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Re: The tiny corp raised $5.1M

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Post by georgehotz »

thesausageking wrote: post #88

For background, "geohot", is George Hotz, who's a known hacker / tech personality[0] This project fits the pattern of his previous projects: he gets excited about the currently hot thing in tech, makes his own knockoff version, generates a ton of buzz in the tech press for it, and then it fizzles out because he doesn't have the resources or attention span to actually make something at that scale. In 2016, Tesla and s…

For reference, comma released a new version of openpilot today, and we now sell comma threes.

https://blog.comma.ai/092release/

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