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Chinese Businesses Fueling the Fentanyl Epidemic Receive Millions in Crypto

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Post by AdieuToLogic »

what-no-tests wrote: post #18
AdieuToLogic wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> All this feels like a rehash of the British Empire selling Opium to China in the 18th century. Only this time it's China supplying the United States ... Two wrongs do not make a right.

> Two wrongs do not make a right. How is that different than karma?

> > Two wrongs do not make a right.

> How is that different than karma?

Because the United States is not, nor has ever been, a part of the British Empire.

Karma[0]:

  the force generated by a person's actions held
  in Hinduism and Buddhism to perpetuate
  transmigration and in its ethical consequences
  to determine the nature of the person's next
  existence
Even when extending the definition from "a person" to "a country", karma[0] does not apply in this situation.

0 - https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/karma

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Post by justrealist »

candiddevmike wrote: post #6

This is a phenomenal showcase for the utter failure of the war on drugs. Regulate it, tax it, ensure folks can safely use, and help them stop using when they're ready.

This advice might have been true for pot or cocaine or even heroin, but is demonstrably untrue for Fentanyl. It's simply too strong. Once you're on it, you don't want help, or a life — you want Fentanyl.

I'm sorry, but the rules have changed, and policy needs to adapt.

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Post by amanaplanacanal »

AdieuToLogic wrote: post #27
anonporridge wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That comment doesn't imply that it does.

The GP equated Brits selling (supplying) opium to China to China supplying Fentanyl to the US. Both actions have provably deleterious effects to a population. How does that not imply "two wrongs"?

it doesn't imply that it's right.

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Post by elif »

next_xibalba wrote: post #8
candiddevmike wrote: post #6

This is a phenomenal showcase for the utter failure of the war on drugs. Regulate it, tax it, ensure folks can safely use, and help them stop using when they're ready.

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I don't think the answer to the opioid epidemic is being proposed as "different opioids" by drug war antagonists..

How many people would spend $20 on mystery sometimes suicide pills for a couple hours of forgettable high and days of feeling shitty afterwards if they had the option of spending $1 on a tab of certifiably pure LSD? Certainly at least some would change their behavior.

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Post by synergy20 »

pxue wrote: post #25
gtop3 wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is the US the inheritor of the British Empire's karma?

US was part of the 8-nation alliance invaded manchuria.

which was reacting to China's Boxers killing foreigners esp religious people like wild fire. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eight-Nation_Alliance.

After the invasion USA returned the "Boxer Protocol" money to create the best univ in China https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Tsinghua_University

Not to mention US helped China to fight Japan, and build hospitals,etc. US never took an inch territory from China when it had the power to do that.

Russia on the other hand took a huge chunk territory from China and invaded and killed countless Chinese, but, China loves Russia while always hated US, I could never figure out why.

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Post by Larrikin »

what-no-tests wrote: post #18
AdieuToLogic wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> All this feels like a rehash of the British Empire selling Opium to China in the 18th century. Only this time it's China supplying the United States ... Two wrongs do not make a right.

> Two wrongs do not make a right. How is that different than karma?

Should ancient religions dictate punishment and morality?

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Post by onethought »

AdieuToLogic wrote: post #31
what-no-tests wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Two wrongs do not make a right. How is that different than karma?

> > Two wrongs do not make a right. > How is that different than karma? Because the United States is not, nor has ever been, a part of the British Empire. Karma[0]: the force generated by a person's actions held in Hinduism and Buddhism to perpetuate transmigration and in its ethical consequences to determine the nature of the person's next existence Even when extending the definition from "a person" to "a country",…

United States did partake in the Opium trade in China, even though they were well aware of the harm, and profited from the wars the British and French fought.

Drawing a distinction that the US is completely seperate from the British Empire is pretty dishonest. If you mean the "state" sure, by definition, but it's culture, origin, people, primary (though not official) language all came from the British empire.

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Post by kibwen »

justrealist wrote: post #32
candiddevmike wrote: post #6

This is a phenomenal showcase for the utter failure of the war on drugs. Regulate it, tax it, ensure folks can safely use, and help them stop using when they're ready.

This advice might have been true for pot or cocaine or even heroin, but is demonstrably untrue for Fentanyl. It's simply too strong. Once you're on it, you don't want help, or a life — you want Fentanyl. I'm sorry, but the rules have changed, and policy needs to adapt.

This is trying to say that decriminalizing opioid usage is not the solution; in that case, what is the solution that you propose? The war on drugs has demonstrably been a spectacular failure thus far.

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Post by dfdg »

AdieuToLogic wrote: post #17
hillcrestenigma wrote: post #5

All this feels like a rehash of the British Empire selling Opium to China in the 18th century. Only this time it's China supplying the United States along with other addictive digital platforms such as TikTok.

> All this feels like a rehash of the British Empire selling Opium to China in the 18th century. Only this time it's China supplying the United States ... Two wrongs do not make a right.

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