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Chinese Businesses Fueling the Fentanyl Epidemic Receive Millions in Crypto

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I usually get downvoted when I say this

To be fair, it is a pretty ridiculous comparison for anyone to make.

Sending massive amounts of drugs to a rival nation is unconventional warfare

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This is a phenomenal showcase for the utter failure of the war on drugs. Regulate it, tax it, ensure folks can safely use, and help them stop using when they're ready.

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It's not the opioids causing the tent cities, it's the new generation of meth synthesized from phenyl-2-propanone (rather than ephedrine).

Check out this article[1] or Sam Quinones book "The Least of Us"

[1] https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2021/11/the-new...

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This is a phenomenal showcase for the utter failure of the war on drugs. Regulate it, tax it, ensure folks can safely use, and help them stop using when they're ready.

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> How does one “safely use” life destroying opioids?

1. Sanitation. This is huge for IV specifically.

2. Known purity, known dosage, no toxic additives.

3. Different opioids have different safety profiles. Even diacetylmorphine has a much higher safety record than popular modern synthetic opioids.

4. Your settings matter. Don't operate a vehicle. Be near people with narcan.

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> Two wrongs do not make a right. How is that different than karma?

Why is the US the inheritor of the British Empire's karma?

US was part of the 8-nation alliance invaded manchuria.

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To be fair, it is a pretty ridiculous comparison for anyone to make.

Sending massive amounts of drugs to a rival nation is unconventional warfare

Sure, and to the extent the US and China are actually rival nations, that's where the similarities end.

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> All this feels like a rehash of the British Empire selling Opium to China in the 18th century. Only this time it's China supplying the United States ... Two wrongs do not make a right.

That comment doesn't imply that it does.

The GP equated Brits selling (supplying) opium to China to China supplying Fentanyl to the US. Both actions have provably deleterious effects to a population.

How does that not imply "two wrongs"?

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Showcase the hardcore users to scare kids straight.

> hardcore users to scare kids straight

Evidence shows these tactics being between ineffective [1] and backfiring splendidly [2]. It did in my peer group. Because you see a friend smoke a blunt or do a line and, lo and behold, their teeth don’t fall out. That crisis of credibility then corrodes the entire message.

Fact-based messaging together with testing to ensure purity makes more sense than Puritanical fear mongering.

[1] https://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/pdf/10.2105/AJPH.94.6....

[2] https://dspace.mit.edu/bitstream/handle/1721.1/108479/Stibe_...

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All this feels like a rehash of the British Empire selling Opium to China in the 18th century. Only this time it's China supplying the United States along with other addictive digital platforms such as TikTok.

> All this feels like a rehash of the British Empire selling Opium to China in the 18th century. Only this time it's China supplying the United States ... Two wrongs do not make a right.

Perhaps not, but by instilling guilt in your victim, you can prevent them from defending themselves, if you convince them they "deserve it". Keep an eye out for this tactic - it is very common.
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