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The tiny corp raised $5.1M

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Re: The tiny corp raised $5.1M

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Can anyone comment on the TinyBox they are taking preorders for? The tinybox 738 FP16 TFLOPS 144 GB GPU RAM 5.76 TB/s RAM bandwidth 30 GB/s model load bandwidth (big llama loads in around 4 seconds) AMD EPYC CPU 1600W (one 120V outlet) Runs 65B FP16 LLaMA out of the box (using tinygrad, subject to software development risks) $15,000

We can't really comment much on it because a bunch of specs are lacking. Is it using 6x 7900 XTXs? Which Epyc CPU (Epycs vary in price from $1K to $11K)?

Re: The tiny corp raised $5.1M

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Can anyone comment on the TinyBox they are taking preorders for? The tinybox 738 FP16 TFLOPS 144 GB GPU RAM 5.76 TB/s RAM bandwidth 30 GB/s model load bandwidth (big llama loads in around 4 seconds) AMD EPYC CPU 1600W (one 120V outlet) Runs 65B FP16 LLaMA out of the box (using tinygrad, subject to software development risks) $15,000

I like George's style and wish him well. But I'm not optimistic about their chances of selling $15k servers that are $10k in parts (or whatever the exact numbers are).

It's just too easy for anyone to throw together a Supermicro machine with 6x GPUs in it, which is what it sounds like they'll be doing.

My guess is they'll end up creating some premium extensions to the software and selling that to make money. Or maybe they can sell an enterprise cluster manager type thing that comes with support. He's good at software so it makes sense for him to sell software.

And maybe the box will sell well initially just as a "dev kit" type thing.

Re: The tiny corp raised $5.1M

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Can anyone comment on the TinyBox they are taking preorders for? The tinybox 738 FP16 TFLOPS 144 GB GPU RAM 5.76 TB/s RAM bandwidth 30 GB/s model load bandwidth (big llama loads in around 4 seconds) AMD EPYC CPU 1600W (one 120V outlet) Runs 65B FP16 LLaMA out of the box (using tinygrad, subject to software development risks) $15,000

There's a reason no one uses ATI GPUs in datacenters. Their dev support is shit. Don't waste your money. Buy 6 RTX 4090's and a decent ECC-memory server, and call it a day.

Didn't read the article.

Re: The tiny corp raised $5.1M

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I was always surprised at how AMD hasn't already thrown a bunch of money at this problem. Maybe they have and are just incompetent in this area.

My prediction is AMD is already working on this internally, except more oriented around PyTorch not Hotz's Tinygrad, which I doubt will get much traction.

Re: The tiny corp raised $5.1M

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If they can achieve something competitive with CUDA for $5m, why hasn't AMD done it yet?

AMD has been tackling exactly the wrong problems. They poured their money into a porting solution for developers to take CUDA code and run it on their GPUs. I guess they didn't find it worth it to really compete. I doubt it's about being able to tackle this problem with $5m, but rather convincing the company they can win.

I still don't understand what problem they're trying to solve in EPYC in the hypervisor space with encryption.

They should've been adding tensor cores and neural acceleration to their CPUs. The need for headed graphics cards is moot and wasteful. NVIDIA solved this with the A100.

NVIDIA may spin into a mainstream enterprise CPU and systems vendor as a sales channel for converged CPU-GPU solutions beyond what they're already doing.

Re: The tiny corp raised $5.1M

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post #22

Can anyone comment on the TinyBox they are taking preorders for? The tinybox 738 FP16 TFLOPS 144 GB GPU RAM 5.76 TB/s RAM bandwidth 30 GB/s model load bandwidth (big llama loads in around 4 seconds) AMD EPYC CPU 1600W (one 120V outlet) Runs 65B FP16 LLaMA out of the box (using tinygrad, subject to software development risks) $15,000

I like George's style and wish him well. But I'm not optimistic about their chances of selling $15k servers that are $10k in parts (or whatever the exact numbers are). It's just too easy for anyone to throw together a Supermicro machine with 6x GPUs in it, which is what it sounds like they'll be doing. My guess is they'll end up creating some premium extensions to the software and selling that to make money. Or maybe…

To me this looks like a way to mask donations.
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