There isn't much need to suppress novels anymore. People no longer have sufficient attention span to even finish a 5 minute video and need to be fed bite-sized shorts. No need to kill the producer, consumers have been killed.
A novel the CIA spent a fortune to suppress
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Re: A novel the CIA spent a fortune to suppress
#122I've been thinking a lot about these kind of scenarios lately: Autocratic regime holds power over a territory with a long history of violent instability. The regime is guilty of corruption, nepotism, human rights violations, suppressing dissidents, etc. This is I think a requirement for it to hold power given the conditions. If the regime collapses even greater violence and general horrible stuff happens. There are p…
Yes, it really is a bad thing. All dictatorships suck except for a narrow class of people favored by or directly benefiting from the regime. Period. Any other view is either cope or Orientalism (“maybe democracy doesn’t work for X people”). Sometimes it takes the subjects of a dictatorship multiple generations to realize that dictatorships suck, especially if they are partisans and their dictator is a “hero” fighting…
And even they can fall out of favor and become victims in an instant. You only need to say the wrong thing or have someone report that you said the wrong thing (whether or not you did) and the party's over.
Re: A novel the CIA spent a fortune to suppress
#123There isn't much need to suppress novels anymore. People no longer have sufficient attention span to even finish a 5 minute video and need to be fed bite-sized shorts. No need to kill the producer, consumers have been killed.
Is that true? Last I heard (I just looked it up) over half of people in the US read at least one book per year.
Re: A novel the CIA spent a fortune to suppress
#124Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is that true? Last I heard (I just looked it up) over half of people in the US read at least one book per year.
I don't know about your source but if it is true, then I'm very happy to be mistaken.
You had so little attention span you made an unsourced old-man-shouting-at-clouds comment that people have little in the way of attention spans...
...and then couldn't be bothered to investigate, out of intellectual curiosity, an easily verified statement by someone replying to you.
Re: A novel the CIA spent a fortune to suppress
#125https://bookshop.org/p/books/mr-president-miguel-angel-astur...
"Mr. President"
Miguel Ángel Asturias (Author) (the Nobel Prize in Literature in 1967)
David Unger (Translator)
Mario Vargas Llosa (Foreword by)
Gerald Martin (Introduction by) (cited often in the article)
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The New Yorker 2022 coverage of the translation:
https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-timely-retu...
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Related:
https://www.vice.com/en/article/pgp53z/how-the-cia-infiltrat...
and
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_activities_in_Guatemala
and (a "part-time hack with a political off switch"):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emir_Rodr%C3%ADguez_Monegal
"a scholar, literary critic, and editor of Latin American literature. From 1969 to 1985" .. "a professor of Latin American contemporary literature at Yale University".
Re: A novel the CIA spent a fortune to suppress
#126Something I do not understand ... From the link: > But its 1946 debut reflected a delay of more than a decade by the country’s real dictators, who disrupted the novel’s genesis and sent its author into exile. And in this act of suppression, Asturias’s censors and exilers were aided by the US, specifically the CIA. From Wikipedia: the CIA was founded September 18, 1947. How did the CIA "specifically" helped delay the…
The official formation of the CIA was also only a formality, it essentially already existed in its components and other forms, e.g., the OSS. You can’t get so fixated on the official title, it’s the underlying people and their motivations that are the thing. It’s why people have such a hard time understanding and believing the “deep state” and why it hates even being called that because it identifies them. What the w…
Re: A novel the CIA spent a fortune to suppress
#127nothing on zlib! I'd call that a successful suppression
https://libgen.rs/fiction/46DAEF09199182E5928922587419E1F3
http://libgen.rs/book/index.php?md5=C8E7CC541E6855E0034FC6D0...
Re: A novel the CIA spent a fortune to suppress
#128Something I do not understand ... From the link: > But its 1946 debut reflected a delay of more than a decade by the country’s real dictators, who disrupted the novel’s genesis and sent its author into exile. And in this act of suppression, Asturias’s censors and exilers were aided by the US, specifically the CIA. From Wikipedia: the CIA was founded September 18, 1947. How did the CIA "specifically" helped delay the…
The official formation of the CIA was also only a formality, it essentially already existed in its components and other forms, e.g., the OSS. You can’t get so fixated on the official title, it’s the underlying people and their motivations that are the thing. It’s why people have such a hard time understanding and believing the “deep state” and why it hates even being called that because it identifies them. What the w…
And this produce what is objectively an historical howler right at the start. As the other commenter said, maybe it's just sloppy editing. But seems pretty click baity to me.
Re: A novel the CIA spent a fortune to suppress
#129Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't know about your source but if it is true, then I'm very happy to be mistaken.
I love the irony here. You had so little attention span you made an unsourced old-man-shouting-at-clouds comment that people have little in the way of attention spans... ...and then couldn't be bothered to investigate, out of intellectual curiosity, an easily verified statement by someone replying to you.
Re: A novel the CIA spent a fortune to suppress
#130nothing on zlib! I'd call that a successful suppression
Not that I wanna encourage piracy or anything but here the book is in Spanish and English: https://libgen.rs/fiction/46DAEF09199182E5928922587419E1F3 http://libgen.rs/book/index.php?md5=C8E7CC541E6855E0034FC6D0...
Thanks for the links.