Nobody felt entitled to WFH pre-2020. Not sure why a virus changes things
Nobody felt entitled to 5 day work weeks before the labor movement, either.
So, when are you going back to 7 days in the office, friendo?
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#32Quit your jobs, peeps, or unionize. Gotta put your money where your mouth is.
Why should anyone quit their job? The company is the one who changed the terms of employment. Mass walkouts are a form of collective action, and are a good step towards unionization. Amazon can fire all the participants if they want (but something tells me they are not going to).
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#33Nobody felt entitled to WFH pre-2020. Not sure why a virus changes things
Sure we did. And some of us walked away from companies who wouldn't budge. COVID just introduced the possibility to more folks, expanding our ranks.
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#35How do the Amazon warehouse workers feel about that? I could guess, but I don't know for sure.
You’re looking at it in a backwards way.
I want to work from home. And while I understand warehouse workers cannot wfh, I think they should get paid regular wage for their commute time.
Don’t go back in time.
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maybe someone can help me understand this. If I were to refuse to pay my rent. My landlord would post an eviction notice and if I refused to comply, I would likely be arrested or forcibly removed. Why can’t the landlord “evict” twitter? Does the process look significantly different for commercial real estate? Does twitter provide value to the landlord in some form other than rent? Maybe they’re afraid of bad PR?
It would probably cost a lot more to evict Twitter and find a new commercial tenant than it does to compel them to pay rent. The reason this wouldn’t apply to you is that residential real estate vacancies are usually easy to fill, especially nowadays.
> The reason this wouldn’t apply to you
That remains to be established. People often have no idea what renter protections are like. If he's in California, he might find that he can't be evicted without the landlord going through a multi-year process.
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#37I still think out of all the...unique... things Elon has said... work from home is morally wrong has to take the cake. I try to spend time looking at things as radically as I can. I think it's helpful to accept folks views as widely as possible, but I'm still trying to wrap my head around work from home being morally wrong. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5OHFt8QyiU I was on a bicycle ride listening to this intervie…
Pure speculation, but my guess is that he’s invested in the commercial real estate market and hoping for a turnaround. I don’t think it’s some profound or insane ideology he has, I think he’s just trying to prop up CRE like he does with crypto. He’s famous for buying distressed commercial properties and for gaslighting, it just makes sense and the whole moral argument was a great way to get people talking about it.
I don't think its a CRE angle. He has multiple companies built around transportation.
Remote work => less demand for transportation.
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#38I still think out of all the...unique... things Elon has said... work from home is morally wrong has to take the cake. I try to spend time looking at things as radically as I can. I think it's helpful to accept folks views as widely as possible, but I'm still trying to wrap my head around work from home being morally wrong. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5OHFt8QyiU I was on a bicycle ride listening to this intervie…
I have a farm and work remotely. I'm awake 18 hrs a day, spend 6 with my family & 12 working -- 8 for tech job, 4 for farm. I do this 6 days a week. I'm insanely productive by most metrics (many many launched products, side gigs, work 1.5 jobs, etc). I schedule my day down to 15 min increments (though obviously, adjustments are always made).
Remote work affords me that opportunity and I work as hard as anyone. It's fun to wear the blue and white collar at the same time to be honest. I have survivalist friends, guys who work on cars, tech folks where wee discuss AI, etc.
I think Musk is wrong here, but do agree people need to roll up their sleeves and do legit work. You should always be contributing to your community, family, etc.
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#40Nobody felt entitled to WFH pre-2020. Not sure why a virus changes things
Nobody felt entitled to owning lands before the end of serfdom.