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Younger teenagers also want some level of privacy.
Agreed, but only with people they actually know in person.
... Yeah, like their parents.
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#322Does hacker news qualify as social media? The paper talks about the amount of time spent, taking time away from sleep and physical activity. This might apply. I don't think other factors like privacy or cyberbullying apply here.
I consider Hacker News social media but I think it’s pretty benign compared to others. Below my threshold of caring or feeling that I need to correct my behavior.
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How about the ones that were allowed to do whatever they wanted? Where are they now?
On hacker news, well-adjusted, highly-educated, able to think for myself, found healthy outlets for "rebellion", and I have healthy relationship with my parents that feels more like friendship than dictatorship. Anecdotally, I got in trouble occasionally as a teenager, but those moments of trouble were considerably less rebellious than friends of mine with helicopter parents.
> Anecdotally, I got in trouble occasionally as a teenager, but those moments of trouble were considerably less rebellious than friends of mine with helicopter parents.
Kids in trouble are often kids developing ambition. I'd wager the disproportional punishments (arrest+record over getting yelled at and shooed off) are what do actual harm.
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You have the ability to help guide them through social media by helping them understand good and bad. I understand that you might have different beliefs, but social media plays a very critical role in young kids communicating with each other. Covid catalyzed them embracing social media to stay in touch. Youtube also shouldn't be considered social media.
I appreciate your viewpoint but strongly disagree. Children today suffer vastly increasing rates of depression and suicide. I link most of it to social media. My kids talk to their friends just as kids have done for generations. If social media is playing any sort of a critical role in a kids life it's because the parents are not doing it. YouTube is absolutely social media no different than Instagram or TikTok. Even…
Your comment is fascinating.
Putting aside whether I agree or disagree, did you ever consider sitting down with your kids to teach/coach/guide them through what social media is, the content on it, what's valuable or not? And if you decided not to, what criteria did you use to make the decision? Did you waver in that decision, or do you take time to reevaluate it on a regular basis?
Or is it instead that you categorically believe all social media is rotten.
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#325D.A.R.E. to Keep Kids Off Social Media Wages stagnated since 1980. Rents doubling every decade. Dead-end service jobs. Unpayable student loans. Social Security payments going to IOUs instead of retirements. Lying politicians and chief corporate officers making bank on the backs of the working poor. 30% credit card interest. Delaying childbirth to make rent until it's too late. GMO and processed foods poisoning giving…
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> Or have you forgotten what it's like? We're simply talking privacy in the digital context. When I was a teenager the world looked different so I had N/A for digital privacy.
> the world looked different You're justifying invasion of privacy with vagueries about "the world being different". This isn't saying anything. Growing up in the 90s we had a home computer, and by extension, digital privacy.
Another way to think of privacy (adult-free zone) is The Place Where The Critical Stuff Is Learned.
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#327I think we are on the tail end of a generation that grew up without internet trying to govern generations that did. The single question that helps me decide whether someone is equipped to address the underlying problem, is asking if they understand the differences between good and bad social media. The difference between good and bad social media is based on the target audience and how potential dark patterns impleme…
I quibble with the notion that there is "good" and "bad" social media, at least as you implicitly defined. Facebook was amazing when it first came out because it allowed people to keep in touch easier and share photos with each other. It also is arguably the progenitor of "bad" social media with tallied likes/reactions and algorithmic skinner boxing of posts. Unfortunately, it boils down more to usage than whether or…
Good and bad social media doesn't have to be rigidly defined along brand/product lines.
Facebook can be an extremely helpful and useful tool for keeping in touch with your friends and something that is addictive and harmful to your mental health.
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Most recent IPCC report stated that we are very likely to hit 1.5° in the next five years. If all our current policies hold, and we don’t continue to increase our annual emissions we will likely be looking at 2.7° - 3.2° at the end of this century. At 3° the oceans die. I think it is safe to say that the world as we know it is very likely coming to an end between 2050 and 2100. We will be living in a far more inhospi…
I'll be astounded if we make it to 2050.
What a ridiculous statement.
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#329D.A.R.E. to Keep Kids Off Social Media Wages stagnated since 1980. Rents doubling every decade. Dead-end service jobs. Unpayable student loans. Social Security payments going to IOUs instead of retirements. Lying politicians and chief corporate officers making bank on the backs of the working poor. 30% credit card interest. Delaying childbirth to make rent until it's too late. GMO and processed foods poisoning giving…
> A burning natural world set to end between 2050 and 2100 What exactly are you thinking will constitute the end of the world?
The ocean no longer is able to provide calories for the billion+ who friend in it as their primary source.
Other food sources are impacted by drought, supply chain disruptions, flooding etc.
Large scale migration triggers political instability, revolutions.
Raw materials and inputs fundamental to our way of life become more expensive to obtain due to supply chain disruptions, driving living costs up and creating political tension.
While i don't think the world or civilization to end, i think a lot of people discount how much line can get worse and more uncomfortable for billions, especially in the wealthier parts of the world.
This is major first world problems but: good prices are higher due to droughts and then flooding. Housing prices have risen in part due to reduction in housing inventory and supply due to flooding, wildfires and increasing fire insurance costs.
My recreation options are limited due to so many parks being closed to due to landslides, storm damage, fire damage or fire risk.
Taxes are increasing in my area due to the increasing cost of maintaining infrastructure due to both flooding and fire damage, storm surges and other sources.
In California, one of the wealthiest places in the world, climate change is already gently and subtly eroding our quality of life.
Things can get much much worse in the next few decades, and likely will.
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I'd maybe put the doubling of rent every decade up there at the top as the thing that causes the most mental health harm. I'm in my late 30s and remember moving to NYC in 2007, when seeing two bedroom apartments in Brooklyn for $1200/month seemed expensive but doable. Now I hear of young people paying that for a room in a shared apartment, or end up moving back in with their parents. Add to that other costs of existi…
Dang, I guess I am lucky in Wisconsin? My 2-bedroom rent has increased only ~23.33% in 13 years, from 815 to currently 1005.
Where in Wisconsin? I'm a transplant, only been here 3 years or so, and luckily a homeowner now, but anything decent seemed in the 1500-2k range for 2 or 3 bedrooms.