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30% of All Rural Hospitals in the US Are at Risk of Closing [pdf]

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It’s really interesting how the US has managed to get a health system that’s extremely expensive, doesn’t cover everybody, is highly bureaucratic and complex, delivers below average outcomes and has overworked hospital staff. And somehow people defend this system because it works fine for the top few percent (especially the people in Congress) and people who have Medicare or VA.

Is there any country with a medical system that people don't complain about? For instance is there anyone in the world that would agree: "Gee, my healthcare is so cheap, it's surprising that it covers everything I want it to without me needing to go out of my way to justify my treatment options and I have so many medical professionals available to me at a moments notice!"

Cuba.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthcare_in_Cuba

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I don't know how you can realistically look at this without thinking of the "I never thought leopards would eat MY face!!" meme. Politics matters. Voters in rural areas (generally, of course) have consistently voted against policies that would help support health care in these rural locations, such voting in politicians who are staunchly against Obamacare, who refuse any expansion or even adequate support for Medicai…

Yeah, but it's not as if all the people who live in these areas voted to shut down the hospitals. There's still a sizable portion of the electorate that wants good things and they get to suffer now. Not great.

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It’s really interesting how the US has managed to get a health system that’s extremely expensive, doesn’t cover everybody, is highly bureaucratic and complex, delivers below average outcomes and has overworked hospital staff. And somehow people defend this system because it works fine for the top few percent (especially the people in Congress) and people who have Medicare or VA.

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Re: 30% of All Rural Hospitals in the US Are at Risk of Closing [pdf]

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I don't know how you can realistically look at this without thinking of the "I never thought leopards would eat MY face!!" meme. Politics matters. Voters in rural areas (generally, of course) have consistently voted against policies that would help support health care in these rural locations, such voting in politicians who are staunchly against Obamacare, who refuse any expansion or even adequate support for Medicai…

Yeah, but it's not as if all the people who live in these areas voted to shut down the hospitals. There's still a sizable portion of the electorate that wants good things and they get to suffer now. Not great.

It can be good as pain motivates, and hopefully they vote better or cause change vis different policies.

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I don't know how you can realistically look at this without thinking of the "I never thought leopards would eat MY face!!" meme. Politics matters. Voters in rural areas (generally, of course) have consistently voted against policies that would help support health care in these rural locations, such voting in politicians who are staunchly against Obamacare, who refuse any expansion or even adequate support for Medicai…

I do not understand how Obamacare would resolve this issue. This seems to be related to the lack of income; how would Obamacare or Medicaid fix this?

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I don't know how you can realistically look at this without thinking of the "I never thought leopards would eat MY face!!" meme. Politics matters. Voters in rural areas (generally, of course) have consistently voted against policies that would help support health care in these rural locations, such voting in politicians who are staunchly against Obamacare, who refuse any expansion or even adequate support for Medicai…

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Re: 30% of All Rural Hospitals in the US Are at Risk of Closing [pdf]

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It’s really interesting how the US has managed to get a health system that’s extremely expensive, doesn’t cover everybody, is highly bureaucratic and complex, delivers below average outcomes and has overworked hospital staff. And somehow people defend this system because it works fine for the top few percent (especially the people in Congress) and people who have Medicare or VA.

Is there any country with a medical system that people don't complain about? For instance is there anyone in the world that would agree: "Gee, my healthcare is so cheap, it's surprising that it covers everything I want it to without me needing to go out of my way to justify my treatment options and I have so many medical professionals available to me at a moments notice!"

The NHS is one of the most beloved institutions on the planet AFAICT.

Of course everyone would prefer if everything were better all the time, but complaints about the US system and clearly not on the same plane as those about UK’s.

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It’s really interesting how the US has managed to get a health system that’s extremely expensive, doesn’t cover everybody, is highly bureaucratic and complex, delivers below average outcomes and has overworked hospital staff. And somehow people defend this system because it works fine for the top few percent (especially the people in Congress) and people who have Medicare or VA.

Is there any country with a medical system that people don't complain about? For instance is there anyone in the world that would agree: "Gee, my healthcare is so cheap, it's surprising that it covers everything I want it to without me needing to go out of my way to justify my treatment options and I have so many medical professionals available to me at a moments notice!"

I don't mean to start a flame war, but the most positive things I've heard are from Indian colleagues/friends who are used to paying cash for very affordable service back in India.

No insurance or national coverage, just low overhead and high skill.

Re: 30% of All Rural Hospitals in the US Are at Risk of Closing [pdf]

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I don't know how you can realistically look at this without thinking of the "I never thought leopards would eat MY face!!" meme. Politics matters. Voters in rural areas (generally, of course) have consistently voted against policies that would help support health care in these rural locations, such voting in politicians who are staunchly against Obamacare, who refuse any expansion or even adequate support for Medicai…

Yet in Canada we have this same issue.

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Can we please just implement some level of universal healthcare. The fact that healthcare is tied directly to payers, who fight over how to much to pay, is ridiculous. Imagine your local hospital shutting down because the hospital charged $50 for aspirin but the insurer wanted $40.

The issue is not confusion over who pays the bill, but the overwhelming amount of corruption and cronyism in the system.
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