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"White hat" Facebook hacker gets 8 months in jail

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Re: "White hat" Facebook hacker gets 8 months in jail

#11
Usually "white hat" have some kind of responsible disclosure. It seems that this "white hat" did not disclose anything to facebook, then got caught and only then, pretended to be acting for everyone's good.

Admitting everything in police custody is NOT responsible disclosure

Re: "White hat" Facebook hacker gets 8 months in jail

#15

Usually "white hat" have some kind of responsible disclosure. It seems that this "white hat" did not disclose anything to facebook, then got caught and only then, pretended to be acting for everyone's good. Admitting everything in police custody is NOT responsible disclosure

Moreover, he actually accessed files. White hat hacking includes finding vulnerabilities, not using them to actually steal data.

This sounds like someone who was accessing Facebook for profit and made up an excuse when he got caught.

Re: "White hat" Facebook hacker gets 8 months in jail

#17
"You accessed the very heart of the system of an international business of massive size, so this was not just fiddling about in the business records of some tiny business of no great importance," he said.

How small does a company have to be, where it's ok for someone to "fiddle about" in their business records?

Re: "White hat" Facebook hacker gets 8 months in jail

#18

"You accessed the very heart of the system of an international business of massive size, so this was not just fiddling about in the business records of some tiny business of no great importance," he said. This is the kind of thing that makes my blood boil.

While it is indeed despicable to imagine that there's a different law for big and small companies, it is long known that the size of actual and potential harm is considered when crime and punishment is being discussed. One would probably get different punishment for stealing $10 and stealing $100K (though if you manage to steal $100M you may actually get away with it, but that's another story). If his lawyer would argue (and a good lawyer probably should) that "he did no harm to anyone, of course it's illegal but he didn't mean to hurt anything and he did not, so let's not throw the book at him" - it could influence the outcome. In this case, the judge didn't buy it.

Re: "White hat" Facebook hacker gets 8 months in jail

#19

"You accessed the very heart of the system of an international business of massive size, so this was not just fiddling about in the business records of some tiny business of no great importance," he said. This is the kind of thing that makes my blood boil.

This is the kind of attitude that makes me pissed as well. It's like the phrase too big to fail. Big doesn't equal important.

Re: "White hat" Facebook hacker gets 8 months in jail

#20
"The creation of that risk, the extent of that risk and the cost of putting it right mean at the end of it all I'm afraid a prison sentence is inevitable."

I'm not sure what the "creation of that risk" part is supposed to mean. If it refers to the security weakness the hacker uncovered, well as I said the hacker did not "create" it, he merely "found" it.

If the risk is the potential disclosure, then what is "the cost of putting it right"? Fixing the security weakness? Well since it was not "created" by the hacker, they are just fixing something that they should have, or would have fixed anyway..

Now I'm not saying that the poor hacker should not go to jail. The article doesn't give much details so I'm not sure he should be called a "white hat". However, I'm not convinced by the argument given by the judge..

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