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Nintendo updates 3DS to block Bannerbomb3 despite eShop discontinuation

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Re: Nintendo updates 3DS to block Bannerbomb3 despite eShop discontinuation

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Post by Lammy »

faluzure wrote: post #10
gjsman-1000 wrote: post #9

I interpret this as DS and 2DS games coming to Nintendo Switch Online at some point. Not terribly hard - just have the screens side-by-side, or rotate the Switch 90° for people who want the old experience. It could even be like how Nintendo is doing the Game Boy last year, with basic Game Boy on the standard plan and GBA with the Expansion pack. Basic DS games would be on the general Online plan, and newer 2DS/3DS ga…

I'm curious how the second screen experience will translate. Steam Deck emulators either hotkey the second screen or have a very tiny window on the side.

Presumably just like it did on WiiU: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Virtual_Console_games_...

Which coincidentally was also how I modded my WiiU: https://github.com/smealum/haxchi

Re: Nintendo updates 3DS to block Bannerbomb3 despite eShop discontinuation

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Post by spondylosaurus »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #9

I interpret this as DS and 2DS games coming to Nintendo Switch Online at some point. Not terribly hard - just have the screens side-by-side, or rotate the Switch 90° for people who want the old experience. It could even be like how Nintendo is doing the Game Boy last year, with basic Game Boy on the standard plan and GBA with the Expansion pack. Basic DS games would be on the general Online plan, and newer 2DS/3DS ga…

I kinda doubt it tbh. Nintendo is notoriously reticent about releasing retro games—even with the GBA expansion pack, they're sitting on a ton of titles that would get people to sign up instantly. Instead we're getting the privilege of emulating GBA ports of random SNES titles.

Unless they prove me wrong and we finally get Mother 3.

Re: Nintendo updates 3DS to block Bannerbomb3 despite eShop discontinuation

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Post by routerl »

spondylosaurus wrote: post #5

The good news is that it looks like this new patch won't affect anyone who always has Luma3DS custom firmware installed, and there are other methods for hacking your 3DS, but they're a lot more convoluted. The bannerbomb3 method was super easy and essentially foolproof. Really shitty of Nintendo to sunset the console and then close the door behind them on the way out. Homebrew communities have been doing their damned…

> Really shitty of Nintendo to sunset the console and then close the door behind them on the way out.

The age of abandonware[0] is over. The promise of future earnings from streaming/downloads means all major content producers will lock down even out-of-print works, like consoles from previous generations.

This is just another casualty of the fight we were having 20 years ago, re: copyright. We lost. It's over.

[0] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abandonware

Re: Nintendo updates 3DS to block Bannerbomb3 despite eShop discontinuation

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Post by spondylosaurus »

wilsonnb3 wrote: post #17
spondylosaurus wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And homebrew isn't even exclusively used to facilitate piracy! Like, yeah, obviously it's a big draw. But installing CFW on your 3DS opens a whole world of other cool stuff too.

“A big draw” is really underselling it, piracy is the reason for 97% of CFW users. The other 3% is things like rom hacks and save management, which Nintendo also wants to kill. Then there is a tiny, tiny sliver in the pie chart for the .0001% of people that are doing it just for the “other cool stuff” like custom themes.

Oh, for sure. I just mean there's a level of plausible deniability since CFW != piracy. I personally really enjoy the ability to take screenshots with CFW tools, which most 3DS games don't support natively.

Re: Nintendo updates 3DS to block Bannerbomb3 despite eShop discontinuation

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Post by vlunkr »

RajT88 wrote: post #8
kevingadd wrote: post #3

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Always the long game with Nintendo. I am sure they think that a free-for-all on legacy consoles might take business away from selling the same titles on Switch. They might even be right! It's really hard to say.

I really doubt it. The switch came out in 2017. The 3ds is a forgotten relic to the generation of kids who are growing up on the switch and getting their parents to buy the first party games. There’s certainly a niche for retro gamers, but if I were Nintendo I’d be more worried about the steam deck taking that audience.

Re: Nintendo updates 3DS to block Bannerbomb3 despite eShop discontinuation

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Post by [deleted] »

gjsman-1000 wrote: post #9

I interpret this as DS and 2DS games coming to Nintendo Switch Online at some point. Not terribly hard - just have the screens side-by-side, or rotate the Switch 90° for people who want the old experience. It could even be like how Nintendo is doing the Game Boy last year, with basic Game Boy on the standard plan and GBA with the Expansion pack. Basic DS games would be on the general Online plan, and newer 2DS/3DS ga…

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Re: Nintendo updates 3DS to block Bannerbomb3 despite eShop discontinuation

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Post by spiznnx »

newaccount74 wrote: post #19

My son still has a a 3DS. Does this update install automatically? Should I do something to prevent it?

It doesn't unhack a hacked 3DS, it just closes an exploit used to hack it in the first place.

So I would add custom firmware first if that's something you want to do to it in the future.

Re: Nintendo updates 3DS to block Bannerbomb3 despite eShop discontinuation

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Post by snapcaster »

BowBun wrote: post #20
zachruss92 wrote: post #15

This is a very Nintendo thing to do. I get it from a business perspective but it’s an easy way to really alienate a loyal audience.

And yet they've been antagonistic towards the modding/piracy community since the beginning and have one of the most loyal fan bases of any gaming brand. How do you explain that?

Because their games are better and more timeless than others. Going back to a nintendo game from 20 years ago is fun and rewarding, going back to a 20 year old game from EA or whoever is a miserable experience
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