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That also speaks to the enduring appeal of tools like vi and emacs.
yeah, imagine if a new version of vim changed keybindings.
Torches and pitchforks. Lots and lots of them.
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I’m a business owner and use Quickbooks online and a couple years ago they just flat out changed how they calculated taxes. When I reported the bug they just kept repeating how I could completely change my process to make it work, like they had released some new feature. But they really just broke shit, and refused to ever acknowledge it. There’s no way I was the only person reporting this. They obviously don’t care
So you are saying Quickbooks is trying to be the next SAP? (for those who don't know/understand, the "joke" in the industry about SAP is that it's a perfect fit for you, so long as you are willing to change all your processes and workflows to fit SAP. And no, it's not really a joke)
To be fair, I think the 'joke' is that for a regular 7- to 9-figure injection of capital, SAP will do things your way. Until you realize it's easier to just change your whole business top to bottom to do things the SAP Way.
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#203> Scheme looks like Lisp but isn't really Lisp Well that’s a surprising statement, i’ve heard it touted as more lispy than common lisp.
> Scheme looks like Lisp but isn't really Lisp The Lisp world is extremely confusing. I'd wager that at this time, most people in that space can't even agree on what "being a LISP" means.
I've never seen anyone say that MacCarthy's Lisp 1 and 1.5 are not Lisp. Or that MacLisp, or InterlLisp, BBN Lisp and other historic dialects are not Lisp. Or that Emacs Lisp or ANSI Common Lisp aren't.
The entire disagreement is about languages that deviate from the core design patterns set out in the ancestral Lisps, some of whose adherents want them to be regarded as Lisp.
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> just using excel because it won’t change on them. Are your accounting people quite young? Excel moves and changes stuff, though not on quite such an aggressive timeline. Modern Office is not like 1990s Office where you buy it and then it doesn't change unless you decide to change it. This is fine, the universe's one constant is change, if we fight it we'll lose, but it's worth calling out that there will be change,…
The Excel UI has changed once significantly in the past 2 decades with the addition of the Ribbon. The Excel data format has changed once, significantly, in the past 2 decades (which was forced on MS and even though MS has tried to sabotage the openness of the new formats they were required to create, its still much better than the predecessors). It’s hard to think of any other change that wasn’t just an addition (ne…
The Excel data format has changed once, significantly, in the past 2 decades
But, importantly, that data format change didn't mean you were forced to stop using the old format.
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#205Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Or perhaps some businesses have complications to deal with that go beyond what a newsletter website needs? So ... perhaps there should be a version of Quickbooks that serves the simpler needs of smaller customers better? Like: Simple. Desktop. Requires no upgrades as long as its functionality at-time-of-purchase continues to serve well. No forcing of upgrades via dropping of old formats, etc. I also have given up o…
Imagine you were relying on Quickbooks, and a major taxation change, like the European VAT OneStopShop came out. How would you deal with that without updates? What about the UKs Making Tax Digital, that would be tricky too. That wasn't the point I was discussing, but there is an answer anyway.
Certainly charging for upgrades with useful new and critical functionality is reasonable.
But reasonableness would also price even critical functionality relative to how hard it was to actually implement.
I.e. don't hold hostage a customers' investments in a software product. Don't force customers to pay a ransom to get a simple-to-implement feature.
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#206I love beancount and have used it for a small business and have used wave accounting (made by some friends in Canada). That said Quickbooks is our main system
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#207Serious question - why are people stuck on QB when there are seriouly decent alternatives put there, like xero? My minimum price to go back to QB online would probably be $150k, maybe even more. Here is why: - constant down time - constant errors - clueless offshore support - inflexible reporting - constant UI changes for no reason Switched to Xero, havent looked back. QB Desktop was quite good but working offline is…
>why are people stuck on QB when there are seriouly decent alternatives put there, like xero? When you're an business owners employee you don't have time or authority to change accounting software because you're overworked & thought of as a cost centre. When you're a business' owner you do whatever your accountant says which is usually a legacy software because a lot of tax preparers & accountants aren't actually in…
Would you be willing to share which startup you are at?
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#208We have been working on a FOSS desktop based alternative to GNU Cash with a modern UI for the past couple of years: Frappe Books - https://frappebooks.com - https://github.com/frappe/books Do check it out!
Is this basically the accounts section of ERPNext? If not, what is the difference? I'm considering ERPNext for a small home business I'm starting up, but accounts are something I've never really delved into much beyond a few attempts at personal budget tracking in the past.